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Post by David Pountney on Mar 3, 2012 11:27:45 GMT
I have heared that there where at least 4 copies of Power for Australia.
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Post by Brad Phipps on Mar 3, 2012 21:15:50 GMT
Do we know exactly what medium they used to broadcast the repeat screening after Wheel in Space? Was just wondering whether this might involve the existence of a 16mm copy outside of the usual collection of copies at Enterprises... The last episode of Wheel was broadcast in June 1968; the master tapes for Evil weren't wiped until August of that year. Possible they used the original master tapes (with the added voice over on episode 1).
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Post by Richard Bignell on Mar 3, 2012 21:21:50 GMT
Do we know exactly what medium they used to broadcast the repeat screening after Wheel in Space? Was just wondering whether this might involve the existence of a 16mm copy outside of the usual collection of copies at Enterprises... The PasB's show that the repeat was transmitted from the original master videotapes. In general, BBC Television didn't think that 16mm telerecordings were of high enough quality to be broadcast terrestrially. That's why all the episodes recorded directly to film were done on 35mm.
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Post by Brad Phipps on Mar 3, 2012 21:27:39 GMT
Shoots and scores!
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Post by Steven Flavell on Mar 5, 2012 5:46:28 GMT
Reading DWM's recent feature on this very subject I would say Marco Polo is most likely to turn up and DMP least likely. This shows that you can't believe statistics where missing episodes are concerned. ;D
If I could choose what came back I would go for:
The Myth Makers Dalek's Master Plan The Massacre The Savages Tenth Planet Power Of the Daleks The Highlanders The Faceless Ones Fury From the Deep The Wheel In Space
It's an odd list I know but if we had these then every main character's first and last episode would be held.
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Post by Giles Sparrow on Mar 5, 2012 7:15:12 GMT
Do we know exactly what medium they used to broadcast the repeat screening after Wheel in Space? Was just wondering whether this might involve the existence of a 16mm copy outside of the usual collection of copies at Enterprises... The PasB's show that the repeat was transmitted from the original master videotapes. In general, BBC Television didn't think that 16mm telerecordings were of high enough quality to be broadcast terrestrially. That's why all the episodes recorded directly to film were done on 35mm. Thanks to both Richard and Brad...
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Post by Brad Phipps on Mar 5, 2012 7:17:27 GMT
Reading DWM's recent feature on this very subject I would say Marco Polo is most likely to turn up and DMP least likely. This shows that you can't believe statistics where missing episodes are concerned. ;D If I could choose what came back I would go for: The Myth Makers Dalek's Master Plan The Massacre The Savages Tenth Planet Power Of the Daleks The Highlanders The Faceless Ones Fury From the Deep The Wheel In Space It's an odd list I know but if we had these then every main character's first and last episode would be held. Nice reasoning. I'd like Power & Evil & Mission back. Not a huge list but it'd take us to 93...
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Post by John Andersen on Mar 5, 2012 7:36:11 GMT
Reading DWM's recent feature on this very subject I would say Marco Polo is most likely to turn up and DMP least likely. This shows that you can't believe statistics where missing episodes are concerned. ;D I think I might have heard something about that at another forum. Was this about the chances that certain episodes will turn up again? What formula are they using? What evidence is being used to arrive at those conclusions? Is this reliable in any way, or are certain numbers being pulled out of thin air? When one guy said a fellow named Gatiss was mentioning the missing episodes to The Web of Fear, I thought "Oh, no. Not another Web of Fear hoax."
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Post by Jon Preddle on Mar 5, 2012 7:42:10 GMT
I think I might have heard something about that at another forum. Was this about the chances that certain episodes will turn up again? What formula are they using? What evidence is being used to arrive at those conclusions? Is this reliable in any way, or are certain numbers being pulled out of thin air? There's no magic formula. The only thing one can calculate with almost 100% certainty is that when another missing episode is found it will have the words DOCTOR WHO in the opening titles.
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Post by Brad Phipps on Mar 5, 2012 7:51:30 GMT
Reading DWM's recent feature on this very subject I would say Marco Polo is most likely to turn up and DMP least likely. This shows that you can't believe statistics where missing episodes are concerned. ;D I think I might have heard something about that at another forum. Was this about the chances that certain episodes will turn up again? What formula are they using? What evidence is being used to arrive at those conclusions? None. No formula. No Evidence. All speculation.
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Post by Rob Hutchinson on Mar 5, 2012 9:57:24 GMT
if there'd been any logic to the junking process then the most likely to turn up would be easier to predict. but because random episodes seem to have been disposed of, episodes from abroad soemtimes not coming back, or bicycled and those that were destroyed abroad there seems to be too many variables.
i sort of like to think that episodes of stories that have previously been recovered from collectors are the most likely to survive.
for instance FftD and GF - if the episodes of these stories were junked simultaneously and/or others were among the batch for these junked Aussie episodes then perhaps they were all saved at the same time from junking?
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Post by John Wall on Mar 5, 2012 10:37:07 GMT
I think that some "laws" or "rules" could be postulated:
(1) The number of overseas sales of a particular story are not an indicator of the number of prints made.
(2) A recovered episode is probably not going to help complete a story to facilitate the story being released on DVD. (Consider how much more "useful" the two recent recoveries would have been if they'd been from, say, The Moonbase or The Ice Warriors.)
(3) The "desire" of fans to recover a particular episode/story is inversely proportional to the likelihood of a particular episode/story being recovered.
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Post by Tim Burrows on Mar 5, 2012 14:24:14 GMT
(4) Appreciation of returned episodes is inversely proportional to anticipation/desirability. e.g. Tomb of the Cybermen yearned for by many and widely panned, TUM2 however becomes a highly polished turd upon it's return!
(5) Flying pests outside should not be fed.
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Post by Steven Sigel on Mar 5, 2012 15:12:17 GMT
I think I might have heard something about that at another forum. Was this about the chances that certain episodes will turn up again? What formula are they using? What evidence is being used to arrive at those conclusions? Is this reliable in any way, or are certain numbers being pulled out of thin air? There's no magic formula. The only thing one can calculate with almost 100% certainty is that when another missing episode is found it will have the words DOCTOR WHO in the opening titles. I think the key word is "if" not "When".....
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Post by John F Brayshaw on Mar 5, 2012 16:07:18 GMT
The answer is none likely. Possibly something could show up.
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