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Post by Simon Broad on Mar 16, 2011 17:21:41 GMT
Has anyone seen the new reconstruction on talking telesnaps there is a video on youtube of the first part of "The Abominable Snowmen" it looks good could this be the next big thing for reconstructions? www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp8ZH0wImwoWhat do you think about it?  ?? |
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Post by Greg H on Mar 20, 2011 21:13:06 GMT
I dont know about the next big thing, but it is a method to add to the existing techniques of reconstruction. A bit of this thrown in with 3D graphics, telesnaps, model shots, re-enactment etc could work ok.
I am all for mixing it up and throwing all feasible and affordable solutions into the problem of the missing prints.
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Post by peterconvery on Jan 5, 2016 20:51:04 GMT
From memory this was from a guy called Carmelful. He was halfway through the Power of the daleks the last time I checked about 6 months ago, but I can't find anything uploaded at all now. Has the Beeb pulled the plug on him? Anybody know?
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Post by George D on Jan 5, 2016 21:58:50 GMT
I don't see his work either.
I liked what he did
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Post by John Andersen on Jan 6, 2016 18:36:24 GMT
It is hard to say how good it might be. I logged on and it says the video is private. No point of putting something on youtube if the public can't see it.
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Post by John W King on Jan 6, 2016 21:19:51 GMT
I've just watched Whovisions clips of Power of the Daleks and all I can say is superbly stunning!!! I was lucky enough to see the original broadcast. And if I didn't have a good memory (the Tardis was not seen to materialise for instance) I would have thought some of the clips were actual episode segments. If one individual can achieve this kind of reconstruction why don't BBC this talent to "return" these missing episodes.? Properly coordinated I'm sure all missing episodes could be completed within the next 5 years.
But it ain't gonna happen is it?
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Post by George D on Jan 7, 2016 11:48:52 GMT
The reason it doesn't happen is because in general, the bbc doesn't care a bit about classic Dr who.
All they care about is their gender changing, modern valued, feminist series.
The only one who cares Is the dvd division . Even the syndicatoon division dOesn't appear to care as it appears there isn't much syndicating the original serIes today.
And if Moffat was supportive of the return of enemy/web, I give him credit for that however any tHing New for classic who (such as a 50th anniversary special) they wouldn't consider
Regretably, just as in the 1970s, the bbc didn't care about bw shows, today I feel that the bbc doesn't care about classic who except for some archivists, the dvd division, and few of us, old timers who actually care about classic tv.
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Post by George D on Jan 7, 2016 11:50:16 GMT
The reason it doesn't happen is because in general, the bbc doesn't care a bit about classic Dr who.
All they care about is their gender changing, modern valued, feminist series.
The only one who cares Is the dvd division . Even the syndication division doesn't appear to care as it appears there isn't much syndicating the original series today.
If Moffat was supportive of the return of enemy/web, I give him credit for that however any thing new for classic who (such as a 50th anniversary special) they wouldn't consider.
Regrettably, just as in the 1970s, the bbc didn't care about bw shows, today I feel that the bbc doesn't care about classic who except for some archivists, the dvd division, and few of us old timers who actually care about classic tv.
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Post by Richard Marple on Jan 7, 2016 13:27:59 GMT
Well they care enough to let Horror repeat some & show The Face Of Evil on BBC4.
Then again this doesn't stop our "old TV is undervalued / new TV is crap" macros kicking in.
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Post by Rob Moss on Jan 7, 2016 17:54:07 GMT
Well they care enough to let Horror repeat some & show The Face Of Evil on BBC4. Then again this doesn't stop our "old TV is undervalued / new TV is crap" macros kicking in. Horror screenings are a legitimate sale, so why wouldn't they let this happen? The Face of Evil repeat was the unrestored tapes, so clearly they don't care enough to source restored versions (this time). Sorry, but old telly IS undervalued, otherwise more effort would be made to make it available and tap into people's nostalgia... |
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Post by Richard Marple on Jan 7, 2016 18:32:04 GMT
Well they care enough to let Horror repeat some & show The Face Of Evil on BBC4. Then again this doesn't stop our "old TV is undervalued / new TV is crap" macros kicking in. Horror screenings are a legitimate sale, so why wouldn't they let this happen? The Face of Evil repeat was the unrestored tapes, so clearly they don't care enough to source restored versions (this time). Sorry, but old telly IS undervalued, otherwise more effort would be made to make it available and tap into people's nostalgia... I guess it's a combination of rights issues & "why on earth are you screening that old rubbish" factor. |
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Post by Richard Bignell on Jan 7, 2016 22:32:29 GMT
The Face of Evil repeat was the unrestored tapes, so clearly they don't care enough to source restored versions (this time). BBC4's doesn't really get the funding it needs anyway, so it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that they didn't want to pay BBC Worldwide extra money to access the restored versions when they had a transmittable version that they could access for nothing. Not really sure that counts as them "not caring" though. |
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Post by Rob Moss on Jan 8, 2016 14:13:52 GMT
The Face of Evil repeat was the unrestored tapes, so clearly they don't care enough to source restored versions (this time). BBC4's doesn't really get the funding it needs anyway, so it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that they didn't want to pay BBC Worldwide extra money to access the restored versions when they had a transmittable version that they could access for nothing. Not really sure that counts as them "not caring" though. I thought that restored copies usually made their way back into the central archive as a thank you for being allowed access to the best possible materials..? |
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Post by Richard Bignell on Jan 8, 2016 14:17:26 GMT
As far as I'm aware, Worldwide paid for the work to be done so they retain both the restored masters and control over them.
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Post by Rob Moss on Jan 8, 2016 16:59:09 GMT
As far as I'm aware, Worldwide paid for the work to be done so they retain both the restored masters and control over them. You may be right, I just seem to remember there having been a mutual back-scratching arrangement whereby the RT would be allowed access to the very best source materials (eg negatives rather than prints) in exchange for restored copies. As I recall, restored but unVidFIREd copies of the 60s episodes were offered back. Of course this wouldn't necessarily affect VT-sourced stories such as The Face of Evil, so it may be a moot point! |
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