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Post by Gary Critcher on Oct 21, 2010 21:30:47 GMT
'Most likely because the track found on the album is official and wont be allowed on many sites.' ?? The EMI version is copyright, correct, but SO is the BBC recording, so therefore the BBC version shouldn't be copied or reproduced either!!
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Oct 22, 2010 7:58:39 GMT
It just would have been nice to have the original mono recording on there. But whatever. It does appear to be in the archives.
I have contacted some people to try and see if they would want to replace the audio and then isolate the monitor footage and then blow it up to a discernible size and then with monochrome improvement and filtering you would have a reasonable if not 100% accurate reconstruction of the original show.
The audio bit is a doddle. But I don't know if anyone is going to attempt the last bit.
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Post by Joe Haynes on Oct 22, 2010 9:34:26 GMT
'Most likely because the track found on the album is official and wont be allowed on many sites.' ?? The EMI version is copyright, correct, but SO is the BBC recording, so therefore the BBC version shouldn't be copied or reproduced either!! The BBC recording has not been officially release, so it can be traded freely as no laws have ben broken
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Oct 22, 2010 10:39:23 GMT
Yes. My gripe was it wasn't what they would have been miming to!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2010 11:54:51 GMT
The BBC recording has not been officially released, so it can be traded freely as no laws have ben broken I don't know where you get that idea from, Joe! It's a BBC recording and subject to their copyright and the usual restrictions, whether it's been released or not. As Ray says though, it's an odd choice to make in overlaying a different version to that which the clip would have used originally.
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Post by Gary Critcher on Oct 22, 2010 13:28:30 GMT
'It's a BBC recording and subject to their copyright and the usual restrictions, whether it's been released or not.' Exactly my point.
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Post by Joe Haynes on Oct 22, 2010 13:35:36 GMT
'It's a BBC recording and subject to their copyright and the usual restrictions, whether it's been released or not.' Exactly my point. Then why dont the BBC get hundreds of Bootleg sites to be taken down?
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Post by markjhaley on Oct 22, 2010 15:50:03 GMT
Joe, you might like to check out this page which explains copyright in music in a clear concise way. www.copyrightservice.co.uk/protect/p07_music_copyright . The laws are slightly different for the song and the recording In this case the BBC will hold the copyright in the recording until 50 years have elapsed. However the holders of the copyright in the song (in the UK) will retain it until 70 years after the composers are deceased. To confuse things further, the term of copyright varies from country to country. The question as to why the BBC (and other copyright holders) do or don't get Bootleg sites taken down is actually irrelevant. At the moment either the BBC or Sony Music could have the song removed at any time.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Oct 22, 2010 15:52:38 GMT
And companies do from time to time; even youtube a/c holders get banned.
Anyway, that's cleared up, I think. :-)
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Post by joewisbey on Apr 10, 2011 16:57:50 GMT
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Post by Thomas Walsh on Apr 11, 2011 1:11:56 GMT
The out-take at the end is wonderful.
T.
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Post by LanceM on Apr 11, 2011 2:55:54 GMT
Also realy liked the presented out-takes,fab stuff!!
I was just thinking,as of course this material features various monitor shots present.Was thinking of the possibility for a zoom on these,cleanup of course as picture quality would need a lot of work to be shure there.Then attempt to merge these into a fair aproximation on what this now lost performance may of truely looked like on original broadcast?
If any scripts exist for this production would be of immense use there.As would then be able to properly place these shots within proper context here?Just a thought for the backburner.
Any ideas or constructive thoughts would be much appreciated indeed.
Cheers,Lance.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Apr 11, 2011 7:48:09 GMT
I have been on to someone to see if they can make it into an approximation of what was broadcast. They replied that they wouldn't mind doing it, but they'd have to have something better than youtube quality.
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Post by LanceM on Apr 12, 2011 4:36:30 GMT
Great news there in regards Ray. Thanks as well for the lightning fast response here.If that is the case there, the next step would be in attempting to contact Granada directly. As has been implied here that they hold the full footage material. Now am left wondering if they might loan a HQ research copy for this endeavor? Just a thought, as really can think of no other way in obtaining a HQ copy for this supposed project.Again, any thoughts or ideas there would be much appreciated indeed, in regards.
Thanks Again Ray!! ;D
Cheers,Lance.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Apr 12, 2011 7:32:46 GMT
I'll be honest, I doubt Granada would loan anything. Bad as it sounds, the only possibility here is if someone had a good-res version (i.e, someone on the ""collectors'"" market). This is, outside of the actual TV company area (and Apple for that matter) prob the only way it would get done.
This is, of course for Forum rules standards, and legal reasons, NOT a suggestion!
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