Broadway Goes Latin (ATV)

[Ken Griffin]

I was wondering if someone could please help me out with some details regarding this early ATV series, which appears to have been produced for export.

There's just a few things I'm trying to untangle. Lost Shows gives the date of the series as 1964, indicates that it ran for three episodes and states "existence unknown".

But there appear to be telerecordings of two episodes of the series at UCLA but there are some discrepancies between the contents of those prints and the Lost Shows listing.

UCLA has catalogued both shows as being from 1962. The guest list for the two shows also doesn't match anything on Lost Shows.

The UCLA shows contain:
1: Carmen MacRae, Los Hispanos, Margie Ravel, Hector de San Juan, the Ros Singers, the Arnaldo Dancers.
2: Pat Suzuki, Los Hispanos, Margie Ravel, Hector de San Juan, the Ros Singers, the Arnaldo Dancers.

So are the above officially lost or not? Was there two series of the show - Lost Shows doesn't think so?

I'm not an ATV/ITC expert so I'd appreciate a steer from anyone who can help me reconcile these two conflicting database entries.

[cperry]

We only have 4 editions in the database, more were made.

ITV have 16mm elements, but they are uncatalogued Ken. UCLA may have missing eps, no idea.

c

[Ken Griffin]

Cheers for that. Well at least, we can confirm that two episodes do exist!

[John Green]

This is the link,if it works: cinema.library.ucla.edu/vwebv/holdingsInfo?searchId=68&recCount=50&recPointer=0&bibId=151435
They are 16mm,and were made by "Milton H.Lehre in association with A.T.V.,Ltd.".One of them includes a tribute to Hoagy Carmichael.UCLA dates this one to 1962.Could Lostshows "1964" be repeats/other regions? www.lostshows.com/default.aspx?programme=958ac693-87da-4c14-8259-9aa092195d53

Added: 'Jazz on the Screen' quoted by the Library of Congress www.loc.gov/item/jots.200159446 lists three: 3/11/1962-1/12/1963-19/1/1964.

IMDB gives "1964" but gives no specific dates,nor total made.

www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/456322/Broadway-Goes-Latin/

[Phil Leach]

Jun 25, 2014 17:14:53 GMT John Green said:

This is the link,if it works: cinema.library.ucla.edu/vwebv/holdingsInfo?searchId=68&recCount=50&recPointer=0&bibId=151435
They are 16mm,and were made by "Milton H.Lehre in association with A.T.V.,Ltd.".One of them includes a tribute to Hoagy Carmichael.UCLA dates this one to 1962.Could Lostshows "1964" be repeats/other regions? www.lostshows.com/default.aspx?programme=958ac693-87da-4c14-8259-9aa092195d53

Added: 'Jazz on the Screen' quoted by the Library of Congress www.loc.gov/item/jots.200159446 lists three: 3/11/1962-1/12/1963-19/1/1964.

IMDB gives "1964" but gives no specific dates,nor total made.

www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/456322/Broadway-Goes-Latin/

Shown from 29 September 1962 on ATV London with a few other regions taking it (not Midlands or North at that point which is why it's not on Lost Shows for 1962). Jon Scofield was the studio director.

[John Green]

Hi,Phil.
Any idea how many were made in all?

[Phil Leach]

Jun 26, 2014 12:21:33 GMT John Green said:

Hi,Phil.
Any idea how many were made in all?

13 episodes in the first batch running up to 29 December 1962. Then it starts again on ATV London on 10 November 1963 and runs through to 2 May 1964 with a further 25 episodes. Not clear from the on-line TV Times if any of these were repeats of the first batch. That's an awful lot of Edmundo Ros and his orchestra....

[John Green]

Jun 26, 2014 13:52:27 GMT Phil Leach said:

Jun 26, 2014 12:21:33 GMT John Green said:

Hi,Phil.
Any idea how many were made in all?

13 episodes in the first batch running up to 29 December 1962. Then it starts again on ATV London on 10 November 1963 and runs through to 2 May 1964 with a further 25 episodes. Not clear from the on-line TV Times if any of these were repeats of the first batch. That's an awful lot of Edmundo Ros and his orchestra....

Didn't he live to be a hundred? Works out at less than one a year! Obviously very popular back then; the 'Broadway Goes Latin' LP came out in 1964.Were some.at least,shown in the U.S.?

Then there was 'The Edmundo Ros Half-Hour' in 1957 explore.bfi.org.uk/4ce2b6a964b4a

[rmackenziefehr]

Late, I admit, but two points of some relevance concerning this program, in terms of its American run:

1) It appears that episodes started airing in the United States in September of 1962- WPIX in New York, for instance, seems to have started showing it on the 10th of September, more than two weeks before its scheduled premiere in the United Kingdom.

2) The advertisements I have found for it indicate it was being sold in the United States as a 39-episode-run program (a common amount for syndicated television in that era). This would suggest that the 1963-1964 run was a showing of episodes already aired in the United States (and which, from the newspaper listings I have managed to find, seem to have continued to air in the United States and Canada until at least 1967), rather than a second production run.

[Ray Langstone (was saintsray)]

"..........many years ago it was suggested on the Missing Episodes Forum that all the shows were gone and the only things that existed were two kinescopes sitting in the vaults of UCLA.

NOT SO! The ITV Clip Sales team sent me an email this morning about the holdings of Broadway Goes Latin.

They have combined (action/sound) 16mm prints for each episode except, 13 - Carousel/Rigoletto. All they have for that is a MAG reel.

So perhaps we can celebrate this series NOT being lost and being pretty much completely extant with ITV!"