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Post by John W King on Aug 28, 2008 10:06:51 GMT
Am I the only person to recall a long clip of the final Dalek battle scene from Evil of the Daleks being shown in a programme that I think was called "Meet the Kids"? It was a programme ussually shown at Bank Holidays when a celebrity would visit the children's ward of a major hospital. This particular edition I recall was hosted by Rolf Harris and I am fairly certain was shown sometime after the original broadcast of Evil but before the repeat the following year. Rolf asked a young boy what his favourite programme was and of course he replied Dr Who after which most of the battle sequence was shown. Did I imagine it? I expect the programme went out live so no copy was made to sit in a vault.
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Post by William Martin on Sept 5, 2008 15:54:31 GMT
re rolf harris program, do you remember for certain what channel it was on and anything else that was on it or any of the other shows as this may jog someones memory
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2008 17:10:28 GMT
From memory, Meet The Kids was always a BBC programme. First thing on BBC-1 on Christmas morning, it kept that slot for many years!
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Post by Richard Bignell on Sept 5, 2008 18:51:22 GMT
re rolf harris program, do you remember for certain what channel it was on and anything else that was on it or any of the other shows as this may jog someones memory Archivist Andrew Martin has already responded to this over on the RT Forum several days ago, William. No editions of Meet the Kids survive. Richard
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Post by William Martin on Sept 7, 2008 11:24:55 GMT
shame, but at least it was passed around a few times slightly increasing the chances of an illegal copt turning up.
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Post by Adrian Gregg on Sept 7, 2008 15:29:31 GMT
passed around Eh?
Whaca takin about lewis
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Post by Richard Bignell on Sept 7, 2008 16:00:09 GMT
shame, but at least it was passed around a few times slightly increasing the chances of an illegal copt turning up. I've absolutely no idea what you're talking about, William! Richard
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Post by David Robinson on Sept 7, 2008 17:02:05 GMT
I might be wrong but what I think he means is that if a clip from that episode was used in another show then "maybe" the whole episode "could" have been copied without permission & gone walkabout?
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Post by LanceM on Sept 7, 2008 18:16:30 GMT
Would be great indeed to find out of a copy or even any footage trims like the found Space Pirates footage and Fury From The Deep Trims discovered of note, would be a welcome addition indeed for existing 1960's Doctor Who material. Chances that someone possibly made an illegal copy of Evil Of The Daleks is as always possible, though sadly doubtful that this was indeed the case. If any footage was used, was more than likely telerecorded ( transfered) from the 16mm BBC t/r print in existence at the time, as have heard this was a common practice. Blue Peter did the same thing supposedly when wanting to screen material from The Daleks Masterplan, the episode talked to death whether made its way to the skip, or into the hands of a ex-Blue Peter Production staff member ? Kaleidoscope is featuring a Blue Peter Anniversary Event, where some members of the staff will be present from those early days, may be worth asking around for whoever goes to see if anyone can remember " That old who print sent into the office "? Always worth a shot to see if anything new may be learned there.
As usual, further research here would be apparent to track down the name, broadcast date,etc info on this TV program remembered to contain footage from Evil Of The Daleks. I had heard also that a good bit of material from Evil was censored out by the then New Zealand Broadcasting Corp.(NZBC, now referred to as TVNZ), am wondering as the censored footage from Web Of Fear, and Wheel in Space were discovered in private collection in New Zealand, am as ever curious if the Evil trims survive still in private collection, or other source ?
Am hopeful here on some footage being discovered after further research and time!
Cheers, Lance.
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Post by johnstewart on Sept 7, 2008 19:49:07 GMT
re rolf harris program, do you remember for certain what channel it was on and anything else that was on it or any of the other shows as this may jog someones memory Archivist Andrew Martin has already responded to this over on the RT Forum several days ago, William. No editions of Meet the Kids survive. Richard Hi Richard - Andy Henderson helped advise on this a while back; and according to INFAX records; one edition; the 1960 Xmas edition was recorded and is held at the BBC. Extracts were used in the BBCs 'Lime Grove' day in the 90s. The edition in question was 'hosted' by Max Bygraves. It would appear the main reason the show doesn't survive is that it was an OB live broadcast between programmes from the Hospitals. On that one occasion it seems an example was recorded, but possibly the BBC would have allocated resources to another live programme the same day; i.e. those editions of the Queens speech transmitted live. It is a great pity nothing later survives; they would have been very evocative of the time. As far as I recall in the later 60s it was introduced by Jimmy Tarbuck and Leslie Crowther. Rolf Harris came in sometime between 1967 and 1970. As far as I can remember the BBC continued it into the 70s perhaps under a different title with Jimmy Saville and Roy Castle. The only slim possibility as that extracts from a live broadcast telercorded off air might turn up. I know Andrew Martin several years ago went through a number of cans of live programmes from that period and discovered they contained uncatalogued excerpts from the programmes transmitted either side.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2008 22:56:45 GMT
I think Meet The Kids was the first programme on in the morning for a lot of those years in the '60s, John (and so nothing preceding it to record). So the only way for an excerpt to survive would be of the ending if the next show on was also a live one (and was t/r'd as it went out).
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Post by Rob Moss on Sept 7, 2008 23:00:51 GMT
Kaleidoscope is featuring a Blue Peter Anniversary Event, where some members of the staff will be present from those early days, may be worth asking around for whoever goes to see if anyone can remember " That old who print sent into the office "? Always worth a shot to see if anything new may be learned there. I'm going to the Blue Peter event, but if you think I'm going to ask any of the guests whether they remember seeing any episodes of Dr Who in the office 35 years ago and if they know where they went, think again...
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Post by Daniel O'Brien on Sept 8, 2008 7:43:04 GMT
Kaleidoscope is featuring a Blue Peter Anniversary Event, where some members of the staff will be present from those early days, may be worth asking around for whoever goes to see if anyone can remember " That old who print sent into the office "? Always worth a shot to see if anything new may be learned there. Perhaps it's time to let go of the whole 'Blue Peter' connection re 'Dalek Masterplan' 4.
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Post by Ash Stewart on Sept 8, 2008 11:24:50 GMT
Re: Blue Peter. The person whose name appears on the documentation ordering up the clips for the edition in question has already been asked about it, and he doesn't remember any details at all. Which is rather unsurprising when he probably did similar things for other editions of the show dozens, even hundreds, of times more...
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Post by John W King on Sept 11, 2008 8:17:14 GMT
Thanks for the response folks. I had a feeling the actual Meet the Kids programme would not exist but it was a shot in the dark. I know the programme was usually shown on Christmas Mornings on BBC 1 but I have feeling the programme I remember was broadcast at another bank holiday - probably whitsun 1968 because Rolf at the end of the clip turned to camera and said something like if you enjoyed that clip then the whole story will be shown on BBC 1 in a few weeks time. i.e. the full repeat following on from the Wheel in Space. I originally started this thread a) in the vain hope it might lead to the clip being recovered but b) because I have never seen it listed in any Who Histories.
Of course the other programme that often showed clips was Points of View with Robert Robinson. The earliest clip I can remember was the fight sequence from the last episode of the very first story. The next was the end of episode 5 of the Daleks as Elyon was taken by a whirlpool.
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