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Post by Greg H on Apr 19, 2006 12:38:13 GMT
aha. Still havent gotten 'nothing at the end of the lane', sounds like a good read. The junking dates for the villiers house holdings were less conclusive and documented for the most part werent they? Or is my memory playing tricks? None of this makes the re-emergence of the much talked about blue peter prints more or less likely though I spose.
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Post by Chris Gilbert on Apr 19, 2006 17:02:24 GMT
Regarding DMP Ep 4 disappearing after Blue Peter had borrowed the film, I always hoped that after Francis Wilson returned Ep 2 in 2004 that maybe one or two other BBC employees would come forward with an episode or two. Lets hope the potential article on Blue Peter itself today raises the profile of the "Missing 108" to the masses and we get a nice surprise over the next few weeks. Fingers crossed.
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Post by ron on May 5, 2006 21:08:56 GMT
I read that the existing video episodes 2, 5 and 10 are Telecine recordings and that several other clips exist. For episode 2, Day Of Armageddon, that is on the 'Lost in Time' DVD (and was also given away with The Sun last week!) several filmed insert clips exist. Does anyone know, or is able to tell, if they were used in this release or not? Presumably it would improve at least the picture. Just wondering!
The existing filmed insert clip scenes are : The Daleks lighting their pyroflame burners and moving off to burn the jungle. [0:38] Close-ups of Daleks burning the plants. [0:47] A smoke overlay. [0:38] "The Spar" stationary on the landing pad with drifting smoke. [0:12]
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Post by Bobby Clark (synthpopalooza) on May 5, 2006 22:26:40 GMT
Actually, having seen Day of Armageddon in its entirety, I can tell you that the quality of this recovered episode is superb! The person who originally "borrowed" this recording from the BBC back in the 1970's has taken extraordinary good care of it. Therefore, it was unecessary for the BBC to splice in any of the previously existing footage for this episode.
In fact, the restoration team have done an excellent job of VidFire'ing this episode that it now looks almost the way it did when it was originally broadcast, very much like a videotaped production!
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Post by Richard Bignell on May 6, 2006 1:01:09 GMT
Actually, having seen Day of Armageddon in its entirety, I can tell you that the quality of this recovered episode is superb! The person who originally "borrowed" this recording from the BBC back in the 1970's has taken extraordinary good care of it. Therefore, it was unecessary for the BBC to splice in any of the previously existing footage for this episode. But they did anyway! Richard
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Post by Martin Dunne on May 6, 2006 1:51:58 GMT
What I heard (source unremembered) was that the Mormon Church story was dubious because there was no white pages listing for such a place.
I'm finding some interesting things out about the Film Censorship Board. The then Chief Censor (one R. Prowse) gave an interview to Colin Bennett, The Age's film reviewer. Bennett published a rather scathing article containing this in The Bulletin in 1965. This then escalated into a series of articles Bennett wrote for The Age targeting the FCB over banning movies intended for Film Festivals only (might I add that the entire genre of horror was banned for import by the Board refusing every such film distributors would tender?).
That's the background. What's relevant is that the Chief Censor made his last annual report in 1965. After this...nothing! Apparently he could just decide to not write them. Now while I don't have any evidence that this was because of the hostile press it does look like it.
I put it to you that our precious viewing prints were thus in the hands of people who could decide to ban entire genres, not document their work and were only nominally accountable on top of being pretty busy with classifying both cinema and television prints. Would BBC Worldwide have wanted them back after they'd been made effectively untransmittable? If not...
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Post by Richard Bignell on May 6, 2006 7:10:45 GMT
What I heard (source unremembered) was that the Mormon Church story was dubious because there was no white pages listing for such a place. As mentioned on the previous page, the story was confirmed to me a couple of years ago by Steve Bryant, the then head of the BBCs archives at the time of the episodes recovery. Richard
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Post by Martin Dunne on May 7, 2006 1:56:00 GMT
There could be any number of reasons why it wasn't listed in the white pages, if it's even correct!
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Post by David French on May 10, 2006 9:49:08 GMT
Actually, having seen Day of Armageddon in its entirety, I can tell you that the quality of this recovered episode is superb! The person who originally "borrowed" this recording from the BBC back in the 1970's has taken extraordinary good care of it. Therefore, it was unecessary for the BBC to splice in any of the previously existing footage for this episode. Except that what was dropped back in were the original 35mm film inserts which were of a higher quality than those on the 16mm film print that was returned.
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Post by Scott J. on May 10, 2006 11:40:48 GMT
What I heard (source unremembered) was that the Mormon Church story was dubious because there was no white pages listing for such a place. As mentioned on the previous page, the story was confirmed to me a couple of years ago by Steve Bryant, the then head of the BBCs archives at the time of the episodes recovery. Richard It doesn't help well Paul Vanezis continues to revisit the myth in his missing years documentary. No wonder so many question it, when the RT get Debbie Watling to say: "what is was doing in a Mormon Church is still a mystery .. . "!
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Post by LanceM on May 10, 2006 20:59:17 GMT
But that documentary is now outdated. A new one is needed for the fans, so these misconceptions stop croping up. It sure would make a great extra feature for a DVD release. I bet it would sell really good too.
Lance.
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Post by LanceM on May 17, 2006 7:06:10 GMT
No one has any ideas about a new updated documentary ?
Lance.
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Post by Rob Moss on May 17, 2006 7:58:52 GMT
No one has any ideas about a new updated documentary ? Lance. What do you mean, any ideas? What exactly are you asking?
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Post by LanceM on May 17, 2006 20:25:44 GMT
When we were all ( or at least some of us) were talking about an updated Doctor Who Missing Years Documentary. Since some of the facts in the old documentary were misleading, or incorrect. Like Deborah Watling stating about the recovered episodes of DMP from the Mormon Church. Which is known that it used to be a BBC building, not much of a mystery. It just seems that they should be stating the facts. I thought that was what a documentary was supposed to be doing.
Lance.
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Post by Richard Bignell on May 17, 2006 20:35:33 GMT
I'm not aware that there are *any* misleading facts in The Missing Years! The fact that they don't mention that the Mormon building was previously used by the BBC is neither here nor there. It's certainly not misleading anyone.
Richard
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