Locked thread

[Stephen Neve]

Whats happened with the Space Pirates thread, it seems to be locked! Why!

[Mark Brown]

It isn't locked.

[Stephen Neve]

Thanks Mark, it must be My PC, I have had trouble posting on the thread earlier, could you check to see if its not a technical fault as the POST icon is missing from the thread.

Many thanks

[Stephen Neve]

Still don't seem to able to post on it.

[Mark Brown]

I can still see the reply button, anyone else?

[Mark Parmerter]

For what it's worth, the 'reply' icon does not appear within that particular thread on my computer either, although it is present within all other threads, so perhaps there is a technical problem within the mesage board itself.

For what it's worth, perhaps this is a blessing in disguise? All the "Fandom is behind you 100% Steve!" was becoming a bit much...


All the best,
Mark Parmerter
"Doctor Who Gateway to missing episodes,"
archive.whoniversity.co.uk/gateway/index.html

[Stuart Douglas]

Guest-Mark said:

For what it's worth, the 'reply' icon does not appear within that particular thread on my computer either, although it is present within all other threads, so perhaps there is a technical problem within the mesage board itself.

For what it's worth, perhaps this is a blessing in disguise? All the "Fandom is behind you 100% Steve!" was becoming a bit much...


All the best,
Mark Parmerter
"Doctor Who Gateway to missing episodes,"
archive.whoniversity.co.uk/gateway/index.html

lol - indeed. Keep it locked, for all our sakes

Stuart

[Stephen Neve]

Guest-Mark said:

For what it's worth, the 'reply' icon does not appear within that particular thread on my computer either, although it is present within all other threads, so perhaps there is a technical problem within the mesage board itself.

For what it's worth, perhaps this is a blessing in disguise? All the "Fandom is behind you 100% Steve!" was becoming a bit much...


Are you behind me then Mark!

All the best,
Mark Parmerter
"Doctor Who Gateway to missing episodes,"
archive.whoniversity.co.uk/gateway/index.html

[Mark Parmerter]

Dear Stephen,

I am 'behind' the efforts of everybody who actively participates in the search for missing episodes. But trust me, if you want to ever be taken seriously, you need to remember a few important things - fandom can be a very rewarding *and* very harsh place. Be humble, be modest, and always remember that at any given time there are hundreds of older Doctor Who fans who have been searching for missing episodes for decades and who know five times as much as you do about *all* that is involved. You cannot simply sit down at the computer one day, go online, and declare yourself an episode hunter who's going to find the next missing episode. You need to be willing to ask questions and accpet the answers, even if those answers don't make sense to you. Richard Bignell is a perfect example. He has been researching 60's Doctor Who and the missing episodes saga for years and years and years - that research and accumulated knowledge must be respected for what it is - authoritative. I absolutely cringe when I see somedbody like yourself ask a question, then respond with disrespect for Richard and disregard for his answer. To be in any way successful in a venture such as searching for missing episodes, you need to have more than just a few leads from Internet message boards - you need to have a historical perspective on what has been searched (and how) in the past, and how to approach and deal with people. Having read dozens and dozens of articles on the subject and researched everything I could get my hands on, I can easily say that the most important things regarding the search for missing episodes that I have learned have come from correspondence with more knowledgable fans than myself, who have been involved in the search for decades. Don't view them all as arrogant (although a few can be) or unreachable (although a few are) or uninterested (although a few will be ) in a newcomer such as yourself - be humble, be modest, and realize you have much to learn. Asking questions and discovering the answers is the most exciting part of any research, including research into missing episodes. I apologize if this has gone on a bit longer than intended, and I didn't intend to subject you to a lecture, but when I leaped online ten years ago with my interest in the missing episodes saga, I quickly realized I had a lot to learn - continue to follow your leads Stephen, but keep in mind that even those that sound really promising will probably uncover nothing. Stay enthusiastic, don't let fandom get you down, and respect the work and reseach of others who have come before you.

All the best
Mark Parmerter
Doctor Who Gateway,
archive.whoniversity.co.uk/gateway/index.html

[B Thomas]

Hear, hear... Though I suspect this may fall on deaf ears. Or maybe I just don't know how very wrong I am?

[Stuart Douglas]

Guest-Mark said:

Dear Stephen,

<snip sound advice>
All the best
Mark Parmerter
Doctor Who Gateway,
archive.whoniversity.co.uk/gateway/index.html

Well said, Mark. All that's required is a little common sense.

Regards

Stuart

[Stephen Neve]

Guest-Mark said:

Dear Stephen,

I am 'behind' the efforts of everybody who actively participates in the search for missing episodes. But trust me, if you want to ever be taken seriously, you need to remember a few important things - fandom can be a very rewarding *and* very harsh place. Be humble, be modest, and always remember that at any given time there are hundreds of older Doctor Who fans who have been searching for missing episodes for decades and who know five times as much as you do about *all* that is involved. You cannot simply sit down at the computer one day, go online, and declare yourself an episode hunter who's going to find the next missing episode. You need to be willing to ask questions and accpet the answers, even if those answers don't make sense to you. Richard Bignell is a perfect example. He has been researching 60's Doctor Who and the missing episodes saga for years and years and years - that research and accumulated knowledge must be respected for what it is - authoritative. I absolutely cringe when I see somedbody like yourself ask a question, then respond with disrespect for Richard and disregard for his answer. To be in any way successful in a venture such as searching for missing episodes, you need to have more than just a few leads from Internet message boards - you need to have a historical perspective on what has been searched (and how) in the past, and how to approach and deal with people. Having read dozens and dozens of articles on the subject and researched everything I could get my hands on, I can easily say that the most important things regarding the search for missing episodes that I have learned have come from correspondence with more knowledgable fans than myself, who have been involved in the search for decades. Don't view them all as arrogant (although a few can be) or unreachable (although a few are) or uninterested (although a few will be ) in a newcomer such as yourself - be humble, be modest, and realize you have much to learn. Asking questions and discovering the answers is the most exciting part of any research, including research into missing episodes. I apologize if this has gone on a bit longer than intended, and I didn't intend to subject you to a lecture, but when I leaped online ten years ago with my interest in the missing episodes saga, I quickly realized I had a lot to learn - continue to follow your leads Stephen, but keep in mind that even those that sound really promising will probably uncover nothing. Stay enthusiastic, don't let fandom get you down, and respect the work and reseach of others who have come before you.

All the best
Mark Parmerter
Doctor Who Gateway,
archive.whoniversity.co.uk/gateway/index.html

I don't intend to disregard Richards research, its the fact thats he "very aggresive" when he posts. It was never a case of trying to disregard his answers, it was a case of offering an alternative point of view and disscusing it sensible, when "Richard" jumps in and points out "facts" he does it "very aggresively". I understand he may be your friend and I have nothing again'st the man and his research is valuable, I just wish he would be less aggresive when he posts in reply to a question. I may find lost episodes, or I may not. I'm just trying to do my bit in recovering material for the archive.

Regards

[Stuart Douglas]

Guest-Stephen said:

I don't intend to disregard Richards research, its the fact thats he "very aggresive" when he posts. It was never a case of trying to disregard his answers, it was a case of offering an alternative point of view and disscusing it sensible, when "Richard" jumps in and points out "facts" he does it "very aggresively". I understand he may be your friend and I have nothing again'st the man and his research is valuable, I just wish he would be less aggresive when he posts in reply to a question. I may find lost episodes, or I may not. I'm just trying to do my bit in recovering material for the archive.

Regards

Sorry, but I really have to ask - why is the name Richard in this post in inverted commas? Do you doubt that's his real name, or is a subtle homage to Russell Harty?



Regards,

Stuart

[Stephen Neve]

StuartDouglas said:

Sorry, but I really have to ask - why is the name Richard in this post in inverted commas? Do you doubt that's his real name, or is a subtle homage to Russell Harty?



Regards,

You always find patterns in things that aren't there Stuart.
Stuart

[Mark Brown]

As the thread was obviously not locked, this one now is.