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Post by Larry Dutch on Jan 16, 2004 14:51:25 GMT
Yes, this is fantasic news. I don't collect Doctor Who eps and don't have a vested interest in them turning up but just to see fans doing cartwheels makes it all worthwhile. I'm always searching for tapes of long obsolete formats with rare material from any country so seeing something turn up like this after over 30 years just makes you try that little bit harder. Myself, I'm always looking for music footage not archived officially (and believe me, there are otherwise unknown home movies of key rare UK pop shows out there, and in colour too, shot on-set..., though I can't give it away as it will come out in a friend's book...).
All I will say is, the best contacts for this material are always (a) the host of the show, (b) the producer or assistant producer, (c) the tape operators, (d) the person who organises this old outdated material to be sent off for landfill. It's true, I promise. People have always liked making showreels either to give examples of what they've been working on for prospective emplyers or they like showing friends and family their work..
LD
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Post by William Martin on Jan 16, 2004 17:13:19 GMT
how often to complete shows survive as oposed to compilations of clips?
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Post by William Martin on Jan 16, 2004 17:18:43 GMT
looks good , can we confirm this is ep 2? anyway enough of all this happiness can't we find something to be negative about? ie why this is the worst thing that could have happened? I'm finding it difficult to be negative help
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Post by Mark Brown on Jan 16, 2004 19:40:14 GMT
although all doctor who recoveries are good doctor who recoveries i'd have prefered an episode that would complete a story (like tenth planet 4) or almost complete one (like ice warriors or invasion) or at the very least was followed or preceded by an existing one so we can follow the story.
there you go William, a slightly negative post.
BTW i updated the list woooopie! 108.
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Post by John R on Jan 16, 2004 20:36:06 GMT
anyway enough of all this happiness can't we find something to be negative about? ie why this is the worst thing that could have happened? I'm finding it difficult to be negative help Okay - it could have been episode 11, featuring a guest appearance from Alf Roberts from Coronation Street as an alien with red rings on his face
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Post by Andrew Ainsworth on Jan 16, 2004 23:48:53 GMT
Excellent news I live in Australia and we are currently showing all the completed Dr Who stories from Unearthly Child onwards. Currently on thursday the 15th it was part two of The Ark. To think I bought The Tomb Of The Cybermen in '92 (recovered Jan '92), then to hear of the recovery Part One of The Crusade in Jan '99. I'm beginning to think that January is the month that missing episodes are found. I just hope we don't have to wait till Jan '05 for the next one.
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Post by Jon Preddle on Jan 18, 2004 1:11:21 GMT
David Brunt said "New Zealand had Hartnell until late 1969, and Troughton until late 1971 or so. They didn't run Troughton's last season."
The last Troughton story to air in NZ was The Wheel In Space in September 1971.
According to the old NZBC records kept at TVNZ, there are 39 episodes that do not have a "fate" recorded against them (eg not destroyed or sent overseas). "The Lion" was one of these, so there is a chance (if remote) that there is other Who episodes in New Zealand...
Jon Preddle
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Post by William Martin on Jan 19, 2004 16:21:00 GMT
:)do you know which those episodes are?
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Post by William Martin on Jan 19, 2004 16:26:08 GMT
although all doctor who recoveries are good doctor who recoveries i'd have prefered an episode that would complete a story (like tenth planet 4) or almost complete one (like ice warriors or invasion) or at the very least was followed or preceded by an existing one so we can follow the story. there you go William, a slightly negative post. BTW i updated the list woooopie! 108. ahhh thats better , although how many would be completed by 1 episode? I can only think of tenth planet unless you mean colour video(you know what happens to people who recover home video recordings ) I must say this is the least likely story to turn up and must bode well for others
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Post by Tom Beveridge on Jan 19, 2004 17:24:39 GMT
Let's see! We recover one episode every five years. There are 108 episodes still to find. That should take us 540 years. Now we know why Time Lords live so long!
Hi, William--just trying to be negative! ;>
Thinking about Western Europe reminds me of the finds in Cyprus. Does anyone know if BAOR (British Army on the Rhine) had access to English language TV shows in the 60s/70s (perhaps for their kids)? Perhaps there is a stack of film cans in a Nissen hut. Let's keep hoping!
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Post by William Martin on Jan 19, 2004 17:35:16 GMT
I've always believed that there are more out there just considering the number of copies made for overseas broadcast and the popularity of the show, just imagine your there in 1972 and someone says "here take these down to the skip" the tempation to lift one or two must be quite strong. Although there is the 80% theory that 80% is the highest efficiency that can be sustained over a long period or something thsat would mean about 60 more to be found and about 50 always missing the search of archives will not have been exaustive probably just a look through their incomplete records, if the bbc can misplace episode then they can, the worst thing about this is that when all the existing epiosdes have been recovered we won't know that the search is over and some people will go on looking for episodes that don't exist there positive to start with and ending off negatively
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Post by Adrian Gregg on Jan 20, 2004 0:50:59 GMT
I'm pretty sure that the ABC (Queensland) showed the Pat Troughton's as late as '75!!!!
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Post by William Martin on Jan 21, 2004 16:07:49 GMT
yes, there seems to be problems between the BBC anc ABC perhaps this is hampering possible information and material recovery
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Post by Steve Roberts on Jan 21, 2004 19:49:42 GMT
yes, there seems to be problems between the BBC anc ABC perhaps this is hampering possible information and material recovery There's no problem between the BBC and the ABC at all! I've visited the ABC archives in Sydney and their archivist (who sometimes posts on here, actually) also popped in to see me last time she was in the UK. They know what they have in their archives, and they don't have any missing Doctor Who! The transmission of Doctor Who in Australia has been very well researched in any case. Steve
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Post by Andy Henderson on Jan 21, 2004 20:09:37 GMT
Don't spoil it for them by laying out the brutal truth! They enjoy all that highly coloured speculation, melodrama and mystery far too much!
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