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Post by johnstewart on Oct 15, 2007 16:20:47 GMT
Id like to see the Television Club again was told a while back 1977 was the earliest BFI held them. ;D Hi Steve - For the BBCs holding of 'Television club' see my list above; this is held items not a list of transmissions.
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Post by johnstewart on Oct 15, 2007 16:27:20 GMT
20th CENTURY FOCUS - 1966 (11); 1967 (9); 1968 (9); 1969 (6); 1970 (10); 1971 (12); 1972 (13); 1973 (11); 1974 (3).
WATCH - 1967 (2); 1968 (3); 1969 (2); 1970 (5); 1971 (7); 1972 (4); 1973 (15); 1974 (28); 1975 (18); 1976 (13); 1977 (17); 1978 (9); 1979 (11).
The earliest BBC schools broadcast item I could find was 'the schools clock' from 1957. Presumably this was a standard broadcast item reel for general use in schools broadcasts.
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Post by davidh on Oct 15, 2007 21:11:11 GMT
A very vague recollection of an edition of "Watch" (probably from the early 1970s) relates to a fire engine being in a TV studio - I bet that particular edition (that is if I'm not imagining things) has been junked since I can't find any reference to a fire engine in the BBC Programme Catalogue.
And that schools clock entry sounds potentially interesting from a presentational point of view since relatively little seems to be known about the early days of BBC schools television broadcasting.
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Post by Stephen Doran on Oct 16, 2007 7:42:16 GMT
Hi John,Thanks Dont suppose you recall the Edinburgh Tattoo and the girl cooking a meal being crepe suzette for her boyfriend [Peter?]episodes from i think Nov 1968. Id like to see the Television Club again was told a while back 1977 was the earliest BFI held them. ;D Hi Steve - For the BBCs holding of 'Television club' see my list above; this is held items not a list of transmissions.
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Post by lpmoderator on Oct 16, 2007 8:46:33 GMT
The earliest BBC schools broadcast item I could find was 'the schools clock' from 1957. Presumably this was a standard broadcast item reel for general use in schools broadcasts. What's the web link to this, John? I couldn't find it myself by an Infax search.
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Post by benclarke on Oct 16, 2007 20:53:27 GMT
Hi John,Thanks Dont suppose you recall the Edinburgh Tattoo and the girl cooking a meal being crepe suzette for her boyfriend [Peter?]episodes from i think Nov 1968. Hi Stephen, I think you are remembering the Barnard family from Television Club, there was old Sam Barnard, Mary Barnard and her son Peter. Peter's girlfriend was called Ann Mortimer. The meal cooking one might have been episode 7, The Dinner Date, which is listed on Infax: catalogue.bbc.co.uk/catalogue/infax/programme/ESB7160Nbut that actually ends with Ann cooking eggs and bacon for the Barnards, according to the teacher's notes. I don't know which episode the Ebinburgh Tattoo might be. Television Club was never shown in the autumn term, it was only ever on in the spring and summer terms. The Barnards had one series, first shown in spring - summer 1967 and repeated in spring - summer 1970. In 1968 they showed a repeat of the second series featuring the Brent family, first shown in 1965, and in 1969 they repeated the third series of the Brent family, from 1966. But if you remember the name Peter and a girl with a boyfriend then it must be the Barnards, because all the families before that were just mum, dad, son and daughter. I am working on a new website about schools programmes, including especially Television Club, and any memories or information are really useful! Sorry if this is off topic. Ben.
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Post by Stephen Doran on Oct 17, 2007 7:02:58 GMT
Thanks Ben youve been a great help.All i can recall re the Edinburgh Tattoo episode was the girl /boy missing the last bus back.
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Post by lpmoderator on Oct 17, 2007 14:20:30 GMT
[quote author=benclarke board=general thread=1191177507 post=1192568007 I am working on a new website about schools programmes, including especially Television Club, and any memories or information are really useful! Sorry if this is off topic. Ben.[/quote]
Keep us posted when the site goes online, Ben. I'd be interested to take a look, vintage schools programmes being an interest of mine (and you can't often get the detailed info on this subject that you'd like).
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Post by johnstewart on Oct 18, 2007 13:39:24 GMT
The earliest BBC schools broadcast item I could find was 'the schools clock' from 1957. Presumably this was a standard broadcast item reel for general use in schools broadcasts. What's the web link to this, John? I couldn't find it myself by an Infax search. I haven't it to hand but have the item details and will reproduce them when I dig them out.
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Post by johnstewart on Oct 18, 2007 13:45:39 GMT
Just to add; one of the shows I don't know of any editions survining of is 'DRAMA'.
I know it was ITV schools c. 1967 - 70.
I'm going to post details for another BBC title here; whilst still not wishing to tread on Chris' feet.
I just wanted to raise a point on when Henry Woolf started on 'WORDS AND PICTURES' (BBC).
Held editions:
1970 (1) 'animals in the ark' 1972 (10) Sam on Boofs Island 1 - 10 1973 (10) Sam on Boffs Isalnd 1 - 10 (presumably a remake of the above linking programmes) 1974 (1) 1975 (9) - Mighty monsters Greedy old man Will you help me Pigs and Pumpkins Wizards and Witches Magic Monkey tricks Up and down and around Fat Fairy
(Pretty sure these are the Henry W ones). 1977 (10) 1978 (18).
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Post by Stephen Doran on Oct 18, 2007 15:18:39 GMT
Henry was in a few wasnt he?soon after hes appearences on Rutland Weekend Television.
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Post by benclarke on Oct 23, 2007 15:07:22 GMT
I just wanted to raise a point on when Henry Woolf started on 'WORDS AND PICTURES' (BBC). Oh yes, Words and Pictures is another of the programmes I have been especially looking into. It went like this: Summer 1970 - Up in the Attic, with Gabriel Woolf, 16 episodes but only half of them with the puppet stories. Autumn 1972 & Spring 1973 - Sam on Boffs' Island, with Tony Robinson, 20 episodes spread out over 2 terms, it was one long series of programmes. Autumn 1975 - start of Henry Woolf, Charlie and (basically) magic pencil. The first letter drawn was "m" (top to bottom, over and over) Autumn 1982 - this is when Vicky Ireland took over, with Charlie and magic pencil. The first letter drawn this time was "t" (top to bottom, pencil off, then across - they did it without the curly bit at the bottom in those days!) So from John's excellent list it seems that the BBC have retained every episode of Words and Pictures, except for that very first term (which was also repeated each summer for the next 3 years), from which they have only kept 1 example. "The Animals and the Ark" was the very first episode, in block "A", about the puppet animals being arranged in cabins according to the first letter of their names. The (1) episode listed as surviving from 1974 is an aberration, and I believe it is due to a typing error in the BBC catalogue. If you look at the public entry here: catalogue.bbc.co.uk/catalogue/infax/programme/ESB1251RThe 1974 episode was "Mr Bumble's Invention". Despite what it says about Tony Robinson & Oliver Postgate etc on that web link, "Mr Bumble's Invention" was in fact a Henry Woolf episode, and was first shown in Autumn 1975. Autumn 1974 was actually a repeat of the first 10 episodes of Sam on Boffs' Island. It looks to me on that link like during data entry the date 11 October 197 8 has been accidentally entered as 16 October 1974 - maybe something to do with all the schools programmes on 11 October 197 4 being cancelled because of the election? The catalogue is therefore listing this episode as a 1974 episode. I don't know where they have got the cast and credits information from, but they are all wrong. Moyra Gambleton was the producer by that time. So that episode should be added to the count for 1975, making 10 episodes surviving from that year out of a grand total of 10 shown! My website will be at www.lookingandseeing.co.uk/ (named after this country's first broadcast schools programme!) and I am hoping to open it up in the next few weeks. I do hope it will be of value and of interest, and I would also welcome any information or contributions.
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Post by Stephen Doran on Oct 23, 2007 16:38:13 GMT
Hi Ben ,Looking fwd to reading about these BBC Schools Programmes.
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Post by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2007 19:08:27 GMT
[ The (1) episode listed as surviving from 1974 is an aberration, and I believe it is due to a typing error in the BBC catalogue. If you look at the public entry here: catalogue.bbc.co.uk/catalogue/infax/programme/ESB1251RThe 1974 episode was "Mr Bumble's Invention". Despite what it says about Tony Robinson & Oliver Postgate etc on that web link, "Mr Bumble's Invention" was in fact a Henry Woolf episode, and was first shown in Autumn 1975. Autumn 1974 was actually a repeat of the first 10 episodes of Sam on Boffs' Island. It looks to me on that link like during data entry the date 11 October 197 8 has been accidentally entered as 16 October 1974 - maybe something to do with all the schools programmes on 11 October 197 4 being cancelled because of the election? The catalogue is therefore listing this episode as a 1974 episode. I don't know where they have got the cast and credits information from, but they are all wrong. Moyra Gambleton was the producer by that time. Thanks for pointing that out Ben - you're indeed right about that transmission actually being for 11/10/78 (though I don't think the error is to do with the 74 Election). I've now changed the details on the BBC internal Infax entry, so that should filter through to the public access version in due course. If you spot anything else dubious, please let me know!
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Post by Stephen Doran on Oct 24, 2007 7:31:05 GMT
Can anyone confirm if Janina Faye was ever in Television Club?
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