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Post by Mark Brown on Nov 2, 2003 10:40:48 GMT
A short trailer of The Power of the Daleks has recently been discovered.
The trailer, featuring the Doctor, Ben and Polly discovering some of Skaro's finest covered in cobwebs, has been cleaned up by Steve Roberts of the Restoration Team.
The trailer was screened exclusively for attendees at the launch ceremony for this weekend's Panopticon fortieth anniversary event.
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Post by Harry on Nov 2, 2003 10:50:34 GMT
Interesting find. How long is the trailer approximately? Roll on more whole episode finds.
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Post by Adam Duncan on Nov 2, 2003 10:59:47 GMT
According to a post on the RT forum, it features the opening titles and the last few seconds of episode 1. This features the doctor saying to Ben and Polly " Come and meet the Daleks." Ben asks " Who?" " Daleks." the Doctor replies. It also includes narration from an annnouncer.
It was apparently found at the end of a telerecording of another programme. Opens up the possibility of more existing.
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Post by C Jordan on Nov 2, 2003 19:44:11 GMT
It's been stated that it was found on the end of telerecording of a programme originally tranmitted the previous week.
This raises the intriguing possibilty of exactly WHICH programme that might have been.
Is it unusual for a telerecording to feature a trailer for a different programme at the end ?
Of couse, if that programme just happened to be an as-yet unannounced Dr Who episode find, there's no prizes for guessing exactly which episode it was !
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Post by Laurence Piper on Nov 2, 2003 20:20:19 GMT
I think that's a VERY optimistic hope! It would be great to see Power ep.1 (especially as I saw it originally) but it's likely that the show prior to the trailer was two men talking about the local sheep-dog trials or a documentary on growing onions in East Anglia!
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Post by Simon Mclean on Nov 2, 2003 20:42:46 GMT
I'd imagine it would be a telerecording of a live programme - I think a few bits of 60s continuity survive in this way (like 'The Look Of The Week' with Pink Floyd, which has the preceding BBC-1 clock and announcement).
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Post by Dave Wood on Nov 2, 2003 23:08:57 GMT
The trailer starts with the words "Tomorrow on BBC 1..."
so presumably it was found on a telerecording of one of the shows that were transmitted on the Friday.
Nice clip though and the Dalek capsule set looks quite creepy.
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Post by Gareth R on Nov 3, 2003 0:07:39 GMT
Is it unusual for a telerecording to feature a trailer for a different programme at the end ?
Not particularly. In instances where the film recorder was fed the off-air output of the channel (rather than the clean output of the studio gallery or VTR), it's not unusual for the recording to contain the end of the previous programme, the continuity into the programme proper, and the continuity afterward as well.
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Post by Harry on Nov 3, 2003 4:08:54 GMT
Does ANYONE know specific which show the trailer was on the end of? No one (even on the RT site) has made any reference to it at all. Just curious is all I am. SOMEONE somewhere must have seen what it was on the end of, in order to do a transfer for screening at Panopticon at the very least!
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Post by C Perry on Nov 3, 2003 15:35:26 GMT
This is one of over 50 trailers found by Andrew Martin at the BBC as he trawls trhough all live broadcasts. From memory, I think he said it was a sports show that it came before. Amongst other fidns are clips from Wednesday Plays, numerous globes, bits of Z Cars and a plethora of caption cards and clocks. This is routine work for BBC archivists who deserve recognition for trawling through hundreds of possible finds before finding the occasional gem. Chris  |
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Post by Steve Roberts on Nov 3, 2003 16:48:57 GMT
This is one of over 50 trailers found by Andrew Martin at the BBC as he trawls trhough all live broadcasts. From memory, I think he said it was a sports show that it came before. Amongst other fidns are clips from Wednesday Plays, numerous globes, bits of Z Cars and a plethora of caption cards and clocks. This is routine work for BBC archivists who deserve recognition for trawling through hundreds of possible finds before finding the occasional gem. Chris Yes, absolutely Chris! Obviously I have only just been able to talk about it myself, but absolutely all praise to Andrew for another terrific recovery so soon after finding the 'Fury from the Deep' film trims. Also, I'm not sure it actually is "routine work", as I get the impression that he's very much doing this in his own time, which makes it even more of an achievment. I didn't do the cleanup either, despite what you might read online! Special thanks to Mark Ayres in particular, who was able to extract an enormous amount of dialogue seemingly out a thin air as the film recorder was switched off and the audio consequently got faster and faster until it disappeared! Steve |
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Post by William Martin on Nov 4, 2003 15:00:52 GMT
so just to confirm, this is a trailer with a clip from the actual episode rather than a peice shot specialy
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Post by Steve Roberts on Nov 4, 2003 16:32:34 GMT
Yes, it's a 16mm film recording. The trail starts, then the film recorder operator (who is obviously just testing his recorder before the programme he is waiting to record starts) stops his machine and then restarts it towards the end of the trail. So there's a lot of bouncing and flashing until the FR locks up and obviously there's a chunk of indeterminate length missing from the middle. But it's still pretty nice to see!
Steve
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Post by William Martin on Nov 6, 2003 14:53:54 GMT
thanks nice find then how long is it aproximatly I'm sure that the picture can be fixed as the sound has been acheived (by slowing the sound to compensate for the speeding up effect I suppose) I still find it slightly sureal though when I watch these sorts of recordings any chance of it on the bbc or any other site or perhaps some stills |
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