Post by Peter Elliott on Nov 21, 2006 13:28:20 GMT
A real pity. I was quite charmed at how calm Kneale was about the work of his that had been lost or wiped in the documentary on the "Quatermass" DVD merely shrugging his shoulders and accepting that such things happened and that was that.
Since we know what has survived of Knealex' BBC work, the documentary on the DVD implied that a lot of his work didn't survive, so is it possible for a list of his works that have been lost? We know about "The Road" which sounded amazing and I cannot help but wonder what other wonders he wrote that were televised and lost. I shudder to think what fascinating ideas and concepts of Kneales can never be seen again since he was clearly way ahead of his time.
Post by Andrew Martin on Nov 21, 2006 17:37:53 GMT
"Wine of India" and "The Creature" are lost, the former wiped, the latter may never have been recorded, it would have gone out live. I believe he started out as a staff writer with the BBC Script Unit, any of his pre-Quatermass material would not have been recorded. The 1965 remake of "1984" which used his original script (adapted presumably for the advances in tv technology) does not exist apart from a clip of the 'rats' scene shown in "Late Night Line-Up" the same night.
Post by Peter Elliott on Nov 21, 2006 18:06:13 GMT
Thank you Andrew for that information. I never knew "1984" was remade in 1965. I was wondering about the "Late Night Line Up" interview glimpsed on the DVD documentary and what was being discussed and now I know.
I would say that a remake of this excellent Nigel Kneale story is long overdue.
I most certainly agree. I live in hope that Kneales "lost" works get given a new lease of life with new remakes because I just loved Kneales fertile imagination and his stories and ideas hold up brilliantly today. I just love the entire concept of "The Road" - its a genuinely interesting idea.
I saw it when I was 14; it was about a year after the Cuban Missile Crisis and the ending was a real stop-and-make-you-think. I think it got talked about quite a bit, as a lot of progs did in those two-channel days. On my memory of both of them I certainly rate it better than Stone Tape; but, out of its time, as it would be now, it might not seem so good.
IMO if it were remade it would require quite a bit of 'scene-setting' w.r.t. the international situation (Cold War, Cuba etc) of its day for people to really appriciate it.
Post by laurencepiper on Nov 22, 2006 11:45:34 GMT
As Andrew says, never say never. We just don't know what's out there as Sex Olympics was also thought to be lost for years! Incidentally, there's also "Bam Pow Zap!" (a 1969 play) and "The Chopper" (a 1971 Out Of The Unknown installment) that spring to my mind as other key items of Kneale's that are missing.
Post by Daniel O'Brien on Nov 22, 2006 14:52:41 GMT
Mark Gatiss ('League of Gentlemen', 'Doctor Who', 'Quatermass Experiment' remake) wanted to remake 'The Road' and sought Kneale's permission. I believe the project foundered because Kneale had script approval and didn't like the proposed changes.
Is there any record of 'The Road' being sold overseas? I know that film-recordings were made for various purposes, but a foreign TV archive might hold a copy (though I'm sure it's been looked into already).
You never know. Remember that episode of the avengers season 1 that turned up in america. As i recall it was categoricaly impossible for this to have existed, full stop, so who knows what might float to the surface.