Jeff Beck "Hi Ho Silver Lining" Promo

[Alan Turrell]

Does anyone know where this comes from the youtube poster thinks it comes from France I've never seen a clip of this song before?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaFzAtnUYJk

[RWels]

It looks really weird; in part because of stabilizer software.
I wouldn't completely rule out that it could be fake because of the lack of dirt. Or perhaps all the film grain has been filtered out too?

[Alan Turrell]

Yeh I know what you mean it could be fake but there again it might not be it's hard to tell for sure I wonder if anyone else has any ideas.

[RWels]

You could try asking the uploader for an unrestored version?

[Thomas Walsh]

Fake?? Good God they're making fake 60's promos now? I blame Trump.

[Alan Turrell]

I wouldn't put it past them these days they'd try anything.

[petercheck]

I can't make my mind up whether this is fake or not. It does seem strange that there are no band close-ups.

[ajsmith]

Nov 14, 2019 14:56:31 GMT petercheck said:

I can't make my mind up whether this is fake or not. It does seem strange that there are no band close-ups.

My thought is that it's probably real, my reasoning being:

1) what reason would anyone have to want to fake this? I know Beck and the record are both famous but it still strikes me as unlikely to be the kind of thing anyone would have any motivation to mock up, esp as the results are so unimpressive.

2) It looks authentic enough to me: looks like Rod Stewarts body language and the typical kind of barely directed long shot arsing about seen in several other contemporary primitive pop promos: first one that comes to mind is the Pink Floyd's post-Barrett 'See Emily Play' video.

'Hi Ho Silver Lining' was of course a commercial pop record recorded by Beck with session men before the JBG had properly formed, and I think I'm right in saying that the Beck/Stewart/Wood/Waller lineup never performed it live and probably disdained it. Therefore I can imagine when the TV people behind this spot said 'well like it or not this this is your hit record guys, so we'd prefer it if you performed it on our pop show' the group weren't too enamoured with the idea and so this long shot muckabout was arrived at by way of compromise. Therefore 3/4 of the group wouldn't have suffer the indignity of being seen earnestly miming a commercial pop tune that they weren't even on.

3) does all footage this old necessarily have dirt? I wouldn't have thought so, esp if it was originally shot on videotape.

[richardwoods]

Didn’t Jeff Beck “perform” Hi Ho Silver Lining as a solo artist on TOTP? Probably getting confused with something else.

[petercheck]

3) does all footage this old necessarily have dirt? I wouldn't have thought so, esp if it was originally shot on videotape.

I agree. I certainly didn't dismiss it for this reason.

[johnpoole]

The only TV appearance by Beck that appears in online listings during 1967/8 apart from TotP is for a show in Zurich on 13th April, 1968 (when 'Love is Blue' would have been his current single)
concerts.fandom.com/wiki/Jeff_Beck

The one seen with the hat in the video looks as if he might be John "Junior" Wood (ex- Tomorrow) - he replaced Ron Wood in the Beck group for a while that year when Ron was away with The Creation (which included his old bandmate from the Birds Kim Gardner). There is a photograph of the group in Switzerland in April with the replacement bass player (and hat)
www.sams-collection.ch/index.php/famous-friends.html

[RWels]

Nov 14, 2019 16:13:24 GMT ajsmith said:

3) does all footage this old necessarily have dirt? I wouldn't have thought so, esp if it was originally shot on videotape.

I would expect this to be on film. Especially since it's been so heavily "stabilized" with software, perhaps simply with youtube's own in-built options.
Which is why the main line of inquiry would be if the uploader couldn't un-restore it.

But it's hard to tell. Any details that could reveal if it's film or tape (exact movement, potential unsharpness, colour, tramlines & dirt or interference & dropout) have been sandpapered off too.

Couldn't this moving bridge be identified, and that then dated?

Another option is that someone recorded this illegally somewhere on their phone, and this is the best that could be extracted from that video.

[Alan Turrell]

I've had a quick look on google images but can't seem to find a moving bridge that looks like the one in the clip that's assuming it is in France.

[ajsmith]

Nov 14, 2019 19:18:50 GMT johnpoole said:

The only TV appearance by Beck that appears in online listings during 1967/8 apart from TotP is for a show in Zurich on 13th April, 1968 (when 'Love is Blue' would have been his current single)
concerts.fandom.com/wiki/Jeff_Beck

The one seen with the hat in the video looks as if he might be John "Junior" Wood (ex- Tomorrow) - he replaced Ron Wood in the Beck group for a while that year when Ron was away with The Creation (which included his old bandmate from the Birds Kim Gardner). There is a photograph of the group in Switzerland in April with the replacement bass player (and hat)
www.sams-collection.ch/index.php/famous-friends.html

It does indeed look like Junior Wood in his trademark hat. Therefore as you say I think this is probably early 1968 and likely from the April 13, 1968 Zürich, SUI TV-Appearance. They may have also performed 'Love Is Blue' on the same show doing 2 songs or even more, or they may have just performed the year old 'Hi Ho Silver Lining' (this tended to happen more frequently back on 60s TV I find, especially when a band was performing overseas: they were as likely to plug back catalogue items as their current single). A third possibility is that the footage was originally filmed for a different song and was synched up to 'Hi Ho' later on: after all, with the lack of miming and long shot non committal jigging about, this could have been used to visually accompany just about any song.

So the hunt is on for moving bridges in Zurich!

[petercheck]

Looking at it again, I wonder if this is actually from the Austrian 'Go Go Scope' show rather than French TV?  It has a similar look, see videos below: