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Post by christian bews on Jul 15, 2019 19:15:38 GMT
i was watching the BBC wales programme 'tudur's TV flashback' looking at holidays on the iplayer tonight and it featured a report on why the anglesey holiday village was closed as a lot of people were all in the city as all hotels were booked & it exist in black and white and was made in 1978!i dont suppose if this is the most recent footage to be made in black and white at the time as everything went all in colour by that year.anyone out there know is there a programme,a report or a piece of TV presentation from the late 70s and early 80s that only exist in the old black and white format?i would'nt count a 1980 edition of LWT's 'twentieth century box' with a report done in B/W which was filmed under the reporter & producer's vision.
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Post by garygraham on Jul 15, 2019 22:18:00 GMT
I could imagine a situation where maybe a black and white editor's "cutting copy" of a film has survived but the finished film or transfer to video has disappeared. Having said that I don't know whether black and white cutting copies of colour films were ever made to save money? I have a colour cutting copy of a 16mm that I edited in the 1980s and have no idea whether the final print still exists somewhere, though I have a VHS copy of that.
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Post by Paul Vanezis on Jul 16, 2019 4:18:43 GMT
There was of course the episode of Blue Peter that went out live, and in black and white in (I think) 1974...
Paul
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Post by Simon B Kelly on Jul 16, 2019 5:59:29 GMT
Parts of Africa and Asia didn't go fully colour until 1984 so I can imagine many programmes were still being made and broadcast in black and white during the switchover.
When I finally got my first colour set in the eighties I clearly remember many of the Open University programmes that the BBC were showing were still in black and white.
I'm sure there are many local and regional programmes from the 70s and 80s that no longer exist in colour...
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Post by John Wall on Jul 16, 2019 9:17:20 GMT
My home was Nottingham and the early evening BBC regional news was based at Pebble Mill, Birmingham with an East Midlands “outstation” in Nottingham. Pebble Mill got colour first and it was a while - maybe several years - before the Nottingham studio was converted. I still remember the changeover as Pebble Mill handed over to Nottingham in black and white, after which an on air switch to colour happened.
Don’t know if that survives in the archives?
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Post by Richard Marple on Jul 16, 2019 11:45:07 GMT
My Grease DVD has some scenes removed from the final cut as extras, which are in black & white. I think this is because the original negatives faded over time (which seems to be common with 1970s film stock) & only a monochrome cutting copy was useable.
A few programmes have been made deliberately in black & white in recent years, one being the Comic Strip Presents: Spaghetti Hoops.
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Post by garygraham on Jul 16, 2019 13:34:10 GMT
My home was Nottingham and the early evening BBC regional news was based at Pebble Mill, Birmingham with an East Midlands “outstation” in Nottingham. Pebble Mill got colour first and it was a while - maybe several years - before the Nottingham studio was converted. I still remember the changeover as Pebble Mill handed over to Nottingham in black and white, after which an on air switch to colour happened. Don’t know if that survives in the archives? I think that's unlikely. I understand that in Newcastle and Manchester in nearly all cases only the film inserts and printed programme running orders survive. At least before the early 1980s. The studio bits weren't kept. |
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Post by John Wall on Jul 16, 2019 13:42:11 GMT
My home was Nottingham and the early evening BBC regional news was based at Pebble Mill, Birmingham with an East Midlands “outstation” in Nottingham. Pebble Mill got colour first and it was a while - maybe several years - before the Nottingham studio was converted. I still remember the changeover as Pebble Mill handed over to Nottingham in black and white, after which an on air switch to colour happened. Don’t know if that survives in the archives? I think that's unlikely. I understand that in Newcastle and Manchester in nearly all cases only the film inserts and printed programme running orders survive. At least before the early 1980s. The studio bits weren't kept. This was the 70s and live. |
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Post by garygraham on Jul 16, 2019 13:44:03 GMT
I think that's unlikely. I understand that in Newcastle and Manchester in nearly all cases only the film inserts and printed programme running orders survive. At least before the early 1980s. The studio bits weren't kept. This was the 70s and live. They did generally record the programmes on tape for legal reasons though? |
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Post by John Wall on Jul 16, 2019 13:50:03 GMT
This was the 70s and live. They did generally record the programmes on tape for legal reasons though? Not sure how likely they would have been to survive? |
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Post by brianfretwell on Jul 19, 2019 8:03:39 GMT
How long did the Open University programmes stay as B&W or were they just early ones repeated? I seem to remember they were not colour for a long while when I found them by chance.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Aug 1, 2019 0:06:41 GMT
I'd mentioned ages ago that the tiny BBC operation in Bangor was still using monochrome for some things in 1978....so that would tie up with the first post here....
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