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Post by lescox on Mar 27, 2019 15:30:10 GMT
Hello. With the subject of recons/animations such a hot subject on this forum, I feel it is time to put myself in the frame and nominate a suitable subject for such treatment. The reason for not tagging this onto an already existing thread is because I would like the chosen serial to be treated purely as the subject of this thread - i.e. no deviation from topic, as so often happens. Before I start, though, I have to say that I have watched the Macra Terror animation (the colour version) and The Wheel in Space mini episode and think that they have been realised brilliantly - very encouraging. Anyway, onto the topic. When the subject of possible serials for animation comes up, I notice that the same titles repeatedly surface on a regular basis - Marco Polo, The Crusades, Evil of the Daleks etc. - but, to me, one very obvious serial seems to get overlooked...and it's such an obvious choice - Maybe too obvious - THE ABOMINABLE SNOWMEN. Here's my reasoning: 1) The existing episode contains virtually every visual reference needed, other then 'John', Travis' camp and 'Padmathingy' (!) 2) Hardly any sets involved -monastery, mountainside, cave. 3) Plenty of visual material - telesnaps, cine film colour footage, loads of location shots (67 photos in the Welsh National Archives, I believe -don't quote me!)
4) Full audio of the story. 5) A visually straightforward(surely) story to recreate. I believe this ticks every box that people on this forum suggest. By it's very own nature, the visual imagery is simple and straightforward, surely allowing for a higher level of animation, without incurring an increased level in time/cost penalty, with regards to production. Not only that, it would complete the Yeti story line that continues through The Web of Fear.
Please debate..and please stay on topic. Thank you, in advance.
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Post by Qasim Yusuf on Mar 27, 2019 18:15:15 GMT
I'd love to see an animated Abominable Snowmen however, I think that at the moment, the BBC is focusing on animating completely missing stories. Although if they eventually do get round to animating partially missing stories, Abominable Snowmen seems like a likely candidate. Personally, I hope Galaxy 4 gets animated. It would be fairly cheap to do. Only 3 episodes to animate and very few characters and settings. It would be a great way to find out of people would be interested in buying 'lesser' Hartnell stories.
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Post by John Wall on Mar 27, 2019 19:44:27 GMT
Not many facial expressions on the Yeti šŗ
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Post by scotttelfer on Mar 27, 2019 21:20:18 GMT
I'd love to see an animated Abominable Snowmen however, I think that at the moment, the BBC is focusing on animating completely missing stories. Although if they eventually do get round to animating partially missing stories, Abominable Snowmen seems like a likely candidate. Personally, I hope Galaxy 4 gets animated. It would be fairly cheap to do. Only 3 episodes to animate and very few characters and settings. It would be a great way to find out of people would be interested in buying 'lesser' Hartnell stories.
Unfortunately there is concern over the audio quality of some Hartnell stories. I expect they will be sticking to the Graham Strong recordings for a while at least.
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Post by richardwoods on Mar 28, 2019 18:31:16 GMT
Hello. With the subject of recons/animations such a hot subject on this forum, I feel it is time to put myself in the frame and nominate a suitable subject for such treatment. The reason for not tagging this onto an already existing thread is because I would like the chosen serial to be treated purely as the subject of this thread - i.e. no deviation from topic, as so often happens. Before I start, though, I have to say that I have watched the Macra Terror animation (the colour version) and The Wheel in Space mini episode and think that they have been realised brilliantly - very encouraging. Anyway, onto the topic. When the subject of possible serials for animation comes up, I notice that the same titles repeatedly surface on a regular basis - Marco Polo, The Crusades, Evil of the Daleks etc. - but, to me, one very obvious serial seems to get overlooked...and it's such an obvious choice - Maybe too obvious - THE ABOMINABLE SNOWMEN. Here's my reasoning: 1) The existing episode contains virtually every visual reference needed, other then 'John', Travis' camp and 'Padmathingy' (!) 2) Hardly any sets involved -monastery, mountainside, cave. 3) Plenty of visual material - telesnaps, cine film colour footage, loads of location shots (67 photos in the Welsh National Archives, I believe -don't quote me!)
4) Full audio of the story. 5) A visually straightforward(surely) story to recreate. I believe this ticks every box that people on this forum suggest. By it's very own nature, the visual imagery is simple and straightforward, surely allowing for a higher level of animation, without incurring an increased level in time/cost penalty, with regards to production. Not only that, it would complete the Yeti story line that continues through The Web of Fear.
Please debate..and please stay on topic. Thank you, in advance.
100% agree
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Post by Richard Develyn on Mar 29, 2019 2:30:50 GMT
I'd agree if it wasn't for the fact that this is the story I most want found, and have the highest hope will be found.
Richard
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Post by John Wall on Mar 29, 2019 10:59:42 GMT
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Post by Richard Develyn on Mar 29, 2019 18:30:41 GMT
He might have. What do we know. Richard
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Post by richardwoods on Mar 29, 2019 18:31:17 GMT
I'd agree if it wasn't for the fact that this is the story I most want found, and have the highest hope will be found. Richard 100% agree with this too Richard!
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Post by richardwoods on Mar 29, 2019 18:38:51 GMT
He might have. What do we know. Richard Couldnāt put it better myself! Like you I subscribe to the glass half full approach on PMās recoveries. I canāt help wondering if it was the Abominable Snowmen rather than Web that was allegedly shown in a cinema in Lagos in the 70ās, to my mind the stuff found in a cinema in Sierra Leone makes this at least a possibility.
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Post by richardwoods on Mar 29, 2019 18:43:12 GMT
Appreciate that some folks on the forum may feel the need to dampen down enthusiasm as some others get a bit excited and take reasoned speculation as āfactā but I personally I feel that thereās a place for it on the forum. šš
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Post by Robert Lia on Mar 29, 2019 20:22:15 GMT
I can see it both ways being aware of missing episodes as far back as 1981 I find it understandable to say that if it was going to be found it would be found by now. For the younger generation of fans I can see why they are full of excitement about the possibility of more things turning up.
After years and years or rumors about stuff I have accepted the fact that I may never see some of these episodes as originally produced and will have to settle for the audio version, the reconstruction or the animation (if available)
But I still hope to be wrong. I'm just being semi realistic, if PM had them he would have handed them back to the BBC by now regardless of condition. This way he could not be the subject of speculation of him possibly sitting on things
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Post by John Wall on Mar 30, 2019 0:02:58 GMT
Iām not sure how many times this has been addressed but, except in the mind of conspiracy theorists, thereās no reason for PM to hang onto prints. It is, of course, possible that things have been recovered but not announced however if more of Snowmen had been found thereās no reason not to release it.
Cue the standard conspiracy theories.
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Post by scotttelfer on Mar 30, 2019 1:55:11 GMT
Iām not sure how many times this has been addressed but, except in the mind of conspiracy theorists, thereās no reason for PM to hang onto prints. It is, of course, possible that things have been recovered but not announced however if more of Snowmen had been found thereās no reason not to release it. Cue the standard conspiracy theories. The alternative is that he spent six years travelling the world and found absolutely nothing (not just Doctor Who, I mean absolutely nothing new for the archives). You have to be one hell of a pesimist to believe that. There's no malicious intent, no grand evil profit making scheme, he kept hold of his findings until his search was done and now he's in the process of handing everything back over. No need for conspiracy theories, just a guy that got spooked when a film got stolen from under his nose and had to take precautions. If anything's been found, it's heading back in due course just be patient people.
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Post by Richard Develyn on Mar 30, 2019 4:13:57 GMT
Iām not sure how many times this has been addressed but, except in the mind of conspiracy theorists, thereās no reason for PM to hang onto prints. It is, of course, possible that things have been recovered but not announced however if more of Snowmen had been found thereās no reason not to release it. Cue the standard conspiracy theories. The alternative is that he spent six years travelling the world and found absolutely nothing (not just Doctor Who, I mean absolutely nothing new for the archives). You have to be one hell of a pesimist to believe that. There's no malicious intent, no grand evil profit making scheme, he kept hold of his findings until his search was done and now he's in the process of handing everything back over. No need for conspiracy theories, just a guy that got spooked when a film got stolen from under his nose and had to take precautions. If anything's been found, it's heading back in due course just be patient people. That is pretty much exactly what I believe. Richard
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