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Post by Leighton Haberfield on Feb 3, 2019 18:35:31 GMT
Can some one here please remind me of the history of the return of the above Troughton episode Was it returned by a collector and was it from the 1975 Australian returns or was it from Nigeria? This was the story in Dr Who monthly that began my interest in missing tv
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Post by zaqwilson on Feb 3, 2019 19:29:21 GMT
The Abominable Snowmen andInvasion of the DinosaursEdit
Roger Stevens was working for the BBC as a film editor in the 1980s, and one morning, as he was travelling to work by train, he bumped into a BBC co-worker and they began to talk about Doctor Who episodes.[48] The BBC projectionist mentioned that he had nine episodes of Doctor Who that Stevens could buy for £25.[48] In the summer of 1981, Stevens bought The Space Museum episode one, The Abominable Snowmen episode two,The Moonbase episode four, Invasion of the Dinosaurs episode one, and three episodes ofCarnival of Monsters.[48] Stevens then contacted Ian Levine to find out what was missing from the BBC archive; Levine confirmed that The Abominable Snowmenepisode two and Invasion of the Dinosaursepisode one were currently missing.[48]
Stevens gave these prints to Levine, who returned The Abominable Snowmen to the BBC in February 1982, although he held backInvasion of the Dinosaurs from the BBC for a while.[48] This was later returned to the BBC by Levine in June 1983, who then made a copy and returned the original to Levine.[49]
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Post by Leighton Haberfield on Feb 3, 2019 19:45:56 GMT
Thanks very interesting So are there two different prints of Moonbase 4 Were they from the 75 batch of returns from Oz?
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Post by John Wall on Feb 3, 2019 20:14:13 GMT
Thanks very interesting So are there two different prints of Moonbase 4 Were they from the 75 batch of returns from Oz? Censor clips, if any, are probably the best way to check.
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Post by Jon Preddle on Feb 3, 2019 20:19:24 GMT
Thanks very interesting So are there two different prints of Moonbase 4 Were they from the 75 batch of returns from Oz? One would be from Australia (the one with the Next Episode caption missing) and the other would be from Zambia. The third of the three prints, that was sent to Uganda then to NZ, was destroyed in 1974.
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Post by George D on Feb 3, 2019 21:41:59 GMT
Unfortunately 2-3 prints of episode 4 and none from episode 1 or 3
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Post by martinjwills on Feb 3, 2019 22:39:06 GMT
The Abominable Snowmen andInvasion of the DinosaursEdit Roger Stevens was working for the BBC as a film editor in the 1980s, and one morning, as he was travelling to work by train, he bumped into a BBC co-worker and they began to talk about Doctor Who episodes.[48] The BBC projectionist mentioned that he had nine episodes of Doctor Who that Stevens could buy for £25.[48] In the summer of 1981, Stevens bought The Space Museum episode one, The Abominable Snowmen episode two,The Moonbase episode four, Invasion of the Dinosaurs episode one, and three episodes ofCarnival of Monsters.[48] Stevens then contacted Ian Levine to find out what was missing from the BBC archive; Levine confirmed that The Abominable Snowmenepisode two and Invasion of the Dinosaursepisode one were currently missing.[48] Stevens gave these prints to Levine, who returned The Abominable Snowmen to the BBC in February 1982, although he held backInvasion of the Dinosaurs from the BBC for a while.[48] This was later returned to the BBC by Levine in June 1983, who then made a copy and returned the original to Levine.[49] The BBC projectionist mentioned that he had nine episodes of Doctor Who that Stevens could buy! Stevens bought
1 The Space Museum episode one 2 The Abominable Snowmen episode two 3 The Moonbase episode four 4 Invasion of the Dinosaurs episode one 5-7 three episodes ofCarnival of Monsters
if that was the case what were the other 2 episodes? and
"The BBC projectionist mentioned that he had nine episodes of Doctor Who that Stevens could buy", what about other episodes he couldnt buy ?
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Post by lousingh on Feb 4, 2019 17:53:19 GMT
Thanks, everyone.
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Post by Richard Bignell on Feb 4, 2019 20:04:34 GMT
The Abominable Snowmen andInvasion of the DinosaursEdit Roger Stevens was working for the BBC as a film editor in the 1980s, and one morning, as he was travelling to work by train, he bumped into a BBC co-worker and they began to talk about Doctor Who episodes.[48] The BBC projectionist mentioned that he had nine episodes of Doctor Who that Stevens could buy for £25.[48] In the summer of 1981, Stevens bought The Space Museum episode one, The Abominable Snowmen episode two,The Moonbase episode four, Invasion of the Dinosaurs episode one, and three episodes ofCarnival of Monsters.[48] Stevens then contacted Ian Levine to find out what was missing from the BBC archive; Levine confirmed that The Abominable Snowmenepisode two and Invasion of the Dinosaursepisode one were currently missing.[48] Stevens gave these prints to Levine, who returned The Abominable Snowmen to the BBC in February 1982, although he held backInvasion of the Dinosaurs from the BBC for a while.[48] This was later returned to the BBC by Levine in June 1983, who then made a copy and returned the original to Levine.[49] The BBC projectionist mentioned that he had nine episodes of Doctor Who that Stevens could buy! Stevens bought 1 The Space Museum episode one 2 The Abominable Snowmen episode two 3 The Moonbase episode four 4 Invasion of the Dinosaurs episode one 5-7 three episodes ofCarnival of Monsters if that was the case what were the other 2 episodes? and
"The BBC projectionist mentioned that he had nine episodes of Doctor Who that Stevens could buy", what about other episodes he couldnt buy ? According to Ian Levine, the person Roger met had 21 episodes in total of which he only bought the seven you've listed - not nine.
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Post by simonashby on Feb 4, 2019 20:45:58 GMT
The BBC projectionist mentioned that he had nine episodes of Doctor Who that Stevens could buy! Stevens bought 1 The Space Museum episode one 2 The Abominable Snowmen episode two 3 The Moonbase episode four 4 Invasion of the Dinosaurs episode one 5-7 three episodes ofCarnival of Monsters if that was the case what were the other 2 episodes? and
"The BBC projectionist mentioned that he had nine episodes of Doctor Who that Stevens could buy", what about other episodes he couldnt buy ? According to Ian Levine, the person Roger met had 21 episodes in total of which he only bought the seven you've listed - not nine. Interesting, not heard that one before. Was that because the other 14 already existed or did he not reveal what they were?
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Post by Richard Bignell on Feb 4, 2019 21:24:03 GMT
They were (according to Ian)
AN UNEARTHLY CHILD 1 THE EDGE OF DESTRUCTION 1, 2 THE RESCUE 1, 2 THE SPACE MUSEUM 1 THE TIME MEDDLER 1, 2, 3 THE TENTH PLANET 2 THE MOONBASE 4 THE ABOMINABLE SNOWMEN 2 THE AMBASSADORS OF DEATH 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 CARNIVAL OF MONSTERS 1, 2, 3 INVASION OF THE DINOSAURS 1
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Post by Michael D. Kimpton on Feb 4, 2019 21:30:01 GMT
They were (according to Ian) AN UNEARTHLY CHILD 1 THE EDGE OF DESTRUCTION 1, 2 THE RESCUE 1, 2 THE SPACE MUSEUM 1 THE TIME MEDDLER 1, 2, 3 THE TENTH PLANET 2 THE MOONBASE 4 THE ABOMINABLE SNOWMEN 2 THE AMBASSADORS OF DEATH 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 CARNIVAL OF MONSTERS 1, 2, 3 INVASION OF THE DINOSAURS 1 Could the Rescue Prints be the ones that popped up on ebay a few years ago, or were they duplicates of ones already in the archive?
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Post by Richard Bignell on Feb 4, 2019 22:01:22 GMT
The only film print I know of was for Episode 1 only, that was offered for sale in 2013, but that was one of the dupe copies made for Ian Levine when he was buying them directly from the BBC.
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Post by martinjwills on Feb 4, 2019 22:33:11 GMT
from destruction of time website
"Amongst these films was a 16mm print of The Abominable Snowmen 2. The print was passed to Ian Levine who returned it to the BBC. Two additional prints in the collection, The Space Museum 1 and The Moonbase 4, were redundant yet higher in quality to the existing BBC versions. " so were any of the others checked to see if they were also not suppressed field, Edge of destruction 2 needs the last few minutes in Stored field.
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Post by Qasim Yusuf on Feb 5, 2019 6:11:23 GMT
Wasn't The Time Meddler still a largely missing story in 1982? It seems strange that he didn't choose to purchase those episodes.
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