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Post by Leighton Haberfield on Jan 20, 2019 16:10:28 GMT
Is the Steptoe Winters Tale a missing colour episode then?
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Post by Patrick Coles on Jan 20, 2019 18:10:07 GMT
it was made in colour - I remember Albert comes in dressed in a blue 'James Bond' type ski suit at the end ! - but was part of the season BBC 'lost' bar two colour episodes - along with 'Robbery With Violence', 'The Colour Problem' and 'Pot Black'
I think it was Alan Simpson who found he had home movie versions when clearing out his garage when moving house and the BFI 'restored' the lost episodes converting them from home movie to a watchable but 'blurry' and 'jerky' black and white versions that were put out on VHS video, and over time have been improved upon and shown on TV - these end with an acknowledgement to the BFI and Steptoe Appreciation Society for obtaining and restoring this archive programme for transmission etc
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Jan 20, 2019 20:23:14 GMT
Will more details be announced for any of the other extant films from this collection (50 cans mentioned at the top of this thread!) I think that it would be detrimental to any recoveries if anyone leaked the identity of the other films found in the attic. The Likely Lads episodes have been known to be around for a number of years but reading between the lines this information did little to speed up their recovery.
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Post by Justin Kristiansen on Jan 22, 2019 9:35:19 GMT
The Likely Lads episodes have been known to be around for a number of years but reading between the lines this information did little to speed up their recovery. Well, obviously one sad event occurred to bring on this recovery - & that man's life shouldn't be forgotten. Let's be thankful for his forethought & the care he took with his films.
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Post by richardfitzgerald on Jan 26, 2019 13:23:21 GMT
I think that it would be detrimental to any recoveries if anyone leaked the identity of the other films found in the attic. The Likely Lads episodes have been known to be around for a number of years but reading between the lines this information did little to speed up their recovery. I originally read the 50 cans as being back at the BBC but it's actually "in safe hands" so the remaining films are still under negotiation to be returned I assume?
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Post by jackford on Jan 26, 2019 14:21:26 GMT
I seem to recall amongst the collection there were 2 or 3 episodes of Steptoe,3 episodes of Till Death Us Do Part of which 'Sex Before Marriage' was the only missing one,2 episodes of Dad's Army, a single edition of'World About Us',numerous unlabelled cans one of which looked like a 50 minute reel featuring a tube train entering a station in the opening few seconds,the aforementioned 3 Likely Lads titles,not sure if it was 1 or 2 episodes of the Rag Trade & a can labelled Hancock - 'The Carnival' - your guess is as good as mine on that one.
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Post by Andrew Parker on Feb 11, 2019 11:58:10 GMT
Great to have two more episodes back, can't wait to see them!
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Post by richardwoods on Feb 11, 2019 12:31:32 GMT
I seem to recall amongst the collection there were 2 or 3 episodes of Steptoe,3 episodes of Till Death Us Do Part of which 'Sex Before Marriage' was the only missing one,2 episodes of Dad's Army, a single edition of'World About Us',numerous unlabelled cans one of which looked like a 50 minute reel featuring a tube train entering a station in the opening few seconds,the aforementioned 3 Likely Lads titles,not sure if it was 1 or 2 episodes of the Rag Trade & a can labelled Hancock - 'The Carnival' - your guess is as good as mine on that one. I wonder if the Hancock episode is from the ITV series, didn’t I see something on the forum that the Hancock estate is blocking the release of any of this material? I believe the series was considered unfunny & a bit of a disaster at the time?
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Post by martinjwills on Feb 11, 2019 16:34:01 GMT
Its interesting as the 2 recovered Dads Army Episodes from the earlier recovery were thought to have been made to show the film makers making the feature film of the series, so a 2nd copy of one of them builds hopes for the other 3 missing having been telerecorded along with this one at some point.
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Post by Paul Vanezis on Feb 11, 2019 17:35:29 GMT
I originally read the 50 cans as being back at the BBC but it's actually "in safe hands" so the remaining films are still under negotiation to be returned I assume? Richard, The films are very safe and available to the BBC et al. That wasn't the case a year ago or during the past 40 years. Paul
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Post by Greg H on Feb 12, 2019 8:57:55 GMT
Has a list of what is there been made public at all, or is that currently not information in circulation?
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Post by Paul Vanezis on Feb 12, 2019 9:55:06 GMT
Has a list of what is there been made public at all or that currently not information in circulation? I don't personally know the full contents of the collection but I do know where it is and that it is safe. It couldn't be in better hands. Some commentators have stated with confidence that the return of the Steptoe and Son episode 'My Old Man's a Tory'and The Rag Trade episode 'Baby Dolls' by Philip Morris are actually from this new collection. They have also stated that Philip is acting as a 'front' for these recoveries. This is completely untrue. Regards, Paul
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Post by Michael Pummell on Feb 12, 2019 10:17:11 GMT
Has a list of what is there been made public at all or that currently not information in circulation? I don't personally know the full contents of the collection but I do know where it is and that it is safe. It couldn't be in better hands. Some commentators have stated with confidence that the return of the Steptoe and Son episode 'My Old Man's a Tory'and The Rag Trade episode 'Baby Dolls' by Philip Morris are actually from this new collection. They have also stated that Philip is acting as a 'front' for these recoveries. This is completely untrue. Regards, Paul I don’t think any details of the recovery of those two episodes has ever been mentioned, or did I just miss that bit because MBW was a bit far for me to go?
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Post by Paul Vanezis on Feb 12, 2019 14:33:09 GMT
I don’t think any details of the recovery of those two episodes has ever been mentioned, or did I just miss that bit because MBW was a bit far for me to go? They were from a foreign country. The Steptoe can was in a pretty poor state. I'll see if I can find a pic. Phil's is one of three prints known to exist, but his is the only one back at the BBC. Rag Trade was almost pristine although tainted by a hair in the film recorder gate which comes in part way through the ep and stays through until the end. It's not bad, but spoils an otherwise perfect FR. Paul
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Post by Greg H on Feb 12, 2019 17:44:48 GMT
Has a list of what is there been made public at all or that currently not information in circulation? I don't personally know the full contents of the collection but I do know where it is and that it is safe. It couldn't be in better hands. Some commentators have stated with confidence that the return of the Steptoe and Son episode 'My Old Man's a Tory'and The Rag Trade episode 'Baby Dolls' by Philip Morris are actually from this new collection. They have also stated that Philip is acting as a 'front' for these recoveries. This is completely untrue. Regards, Paul I hadn't heard the Phil Morris thing. I know he has been pulled into the general mythology of fan conspiracy theory (hopefully he doesn't get pestered). I don't really believe anything I hear from those type of sources! As for the collection that these episodes originated from, good to hear it is all safe; hopefully a list of what is there will be forthcoming one day, simply from idle curiosity really I like reading that type of thing. Thanks for the info.
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