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Post by Colin Anderton on Jan 8, 2019 15:41:32 GMT
As someone who watched Top Of The Pops from the third episode onwards (at least till music went downhill in the 70s), I recall the time when the ban on miming was introduced in 1966. I remember Jimmy Savile tossing a load of 45s into the audience, and saying something like "We won't be needing these any more from next week".
However, I had no idea that miming had been banned across the BBC generally before this; I thought this policy was introduced in 1966. I've been doing some research in the archives of the Daily Mirror (among others), and came across an article from November 1963, announcing the coming of the new music programme on 1st January in the new year.
It explains how the programme had been given special permission to allow miming, as the idea was to let people hear the hit discs as they sound on record.
You learn something new every day.
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Post by Tony Walshaw on Jan 10, 2019 6:44:36 GMT
TOTP evidently became so popular that the MU got on the case by 1966.
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Post by petercheck on Jan 10, 2019 8:33:27 GMT
TOTP evidently became so popular that the MU got on the case by 1966. It also led to the demise of 'Thank Your Lucky Stars', and 'Ready Steady Go!' being forced to go over to live performances, sometimes with less than satisfactory results.
Not quite sure what the history of miming on TV in the UK is though. As far as I'm aware, all those classic 1957 to 1960 TV shows like 'Six-Five Special', 'Oh Boy!', 'Boy Meets Girls' and 'Drumbeat' were live performances, unlike (say) 'American Bandstand' in the USA.
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Post by johnpoole on Jan 10, 2019 10:22:28 GMT
TOTP evidently became so popular that the MU got on the case by 1966. It also led to the demise of 'Thank Your Lucky Stars', and 'Ready Steady Go!' being forced to go over to live performances, sometimes with less than satisfactory results.
Not quite sure what the history of miming on TV in the UK is though. As far as I'm aware, all those classic 1957 to 1960 TV shows like 'Six-Five Special', 'Oh Boy!', 'Boy Meets Girls' and 'Drumbeat' were live performances, unlike (say) 'American Bandstand' in the USA.
ITV's 1950's 'Cool for Cats' appears to have been mimed (on the occasions when the acts appeared on screen); but BBC's 1950's 'Off the Record' seems to have been live on the basis of the audio recording of Buddy Holly & the Crickets on the show. Perhaps TOTP was the first BBC mimed show? 'Ready Steady Go!' of course became 'Ready Steady Goes Live!' in 1965 in advance of the miming ban. |
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Post by petercheck on Jan 10, 2019 10:26:38 GMT
It also led to the demise of 'Thank Your Lucky Stars', and 'Ready Steady Go!' being forced to go over to live performances, sometimes with less than satisfactory results.
Not quite sure what the history of miming on TV in the UK is though. As far as I'm aware, all those classic 1957 to 1960 TV shows like 'Six-Five Special', 'Oh Boy!', 'Boy Meets Girls' and 'Drumbeat' were live performances, unlike (say) 'American Bandstand' in the USA.
ITV's 1950's 'Cool for Cats' appears to have been mimed (on the occasions when the acts appeared on screen); but BBC's 1950's 'Off the Record' seems to have been live on the basis of the audio recording of Buddy Holly & the Crickets on the show. Perhaps TOTP was the first BBC mimed show? 'Ready Steady Go!' of course became 'Ready Steady Goes Live!' in 1965 in advance of the miming ban. You could be right, though ITV's (mimed) 'Thank Your Lucky Stars' pre-dated it, starting in 1961. |
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Jan 10, 2019 19:29:35 GMT
The MU (and Equity) agreement with the TV Channels (not just the BBC TOTP) apparently came into force 19/06/1966.
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Post by petercheck on Jan 10, 2019 19:43:59 GMT
The MU (and Equity) agreement with the TV Channels (not just the BBC TOTP) apparently came into force 19/06/1966. If only The Beatles had appeared on TOTP (and it had survived) a week later. Would've been fascinating to hear John Lennon tackle the final verse of 'Rain' live! |
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Post by John Green on Jan 10, 2019 19:51:28 GMT
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Jan 10, 2019 23:48:33 GMT
I remember that thread!
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Post by Colin Anderton on Jan 11, 2019 15:16:51 GMT
"The MU (and Equity) agreement with the TV Channels (not just the BBC TOTP) apparently came into force 19/06/1966."
I can only refer everyone to the article on page 18 of the Daily Mirror for 21 November 1963. It quotes a BBC spokesman as saying: "We want to have the exact sound on the record in the charts, so we are waiving the 'no miming' rule.
Perhaps what had existed before was specifically a BBC unofficial ban?
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Post by markg on Jan 14, 2019 10:40:16 GMT
The MU (and Equity) agreement with the TV Channels (not just the BBC TOTP) apparently came into force 19/06/1966. If only The Beatles had appeared on TOTP (and it had survived) a week later. Would've been fascinating to hear John Lennon tackle the final verse of 'Rain' live! He could have sung "Sarah, now now now she took it to be RAINNNNNNN.." like I thought te lyric was, back in the day. |
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Post by Peter Stirling on Jan 14, 2019 14:37:04 GMT
This is possibly an example where the backing track was recorded with orchestra in the afternoon and then mixed with live singers in the evening performance...Featuring the legendary session singers Tony Barrow and Suni Leslie
Whatever .. the BBC orchestra absolutely nails it here and it sounds far superior to the record release version.
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