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Post by Natalie Sinead on Jan 4, 2019 1:47:59 GMT
As i said elsewhere, a lot of times, old aircheck collections are thrown out by family after the loved one who recorded them has died. off-air videos too - there's probably some interesting seventies stuff that was the only surviving off-air video copy but was thrown out by Son and Daughter when Daddy died.
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Jan 4, 2019 10:25:27 GMT
....Well that came out of the blue (at least for me)! I'm particularly pleased about superior recordings for 'Masterplan though as a recent re-listening of the story reminded me of the distractingly uneven quality of the existent audio. Especially when compared to those of other missing stories. A great start to 2019 then and hopefully just the beginning of 'Who themed riches to come this year?! Yes Graham Strong started recording with a microphone during the first season but his first recording directly from the set on an upgraded machine was Episode 8 of Masterplan (Volcano). This explains the difference in sound quality of his collection from that episode onwards.
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Post by charles drummel on Jan 4, 2019 16:15:06 GMT
....Well that came out of the blue (at least for me)! I'm particularly pleased about superior recordings for 'Masterplan though as a recent re-listening of the story reminded me of the distractingly uneven quality of the existent audio. Especially when compared to those of other missing stories. A great start to 2019 then and hopefully just the beginning of 'Who themed riches to come this year?! Yes Graham Strong started recording with a microphone during the first season but his first recording directly from the set on an upgraded machine was Episode 8 of Masterplan (Volcano). This explains the difference in sound quality of his collection from that episode onwards. I was under the impression that he didn't keep the tapes prior to Volcano, or recorded over them. Perhaps they are just not widely available then, because other recordings, such as Holman's, are superior?
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Jan 4, 2019 16:44:04 GMT
Yes Graham Strong started recording with a microphone during the first season but his first recording directly from the set on an upgraded machine was Episode 8 of Masterplan (Volcano). This explains the difference in sound quality of his collection from that episode onwards. I was under the impression that he didn't keep the tapes prior to Volcano, or recorded over them. Perhaps they are just not widely available then, because other recordings, such as Holman's, are superior? Off the top of my head he kept them all with the exception of all of The Celestial Toymaker, which he recorded but apparently didn't rate, and possibly The Feast of Steven.
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Post by zaqwilson on Jan 4, 2019 20:48:24 GMT
IIRC he also recorded over the gunfighters & missed DMP 11. I think he retained all others but Holman's are superior before Volcano.
Im guessing the sound editing people can take the multiple recordings, combine & filter them to produce the best possible soundtrack with widest range. A labor of love in homage to the originals.
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Post by Stephen Byers on Jan 5, 2019 11:43:15 GMT
Very curious to hear the apology! Absolutely lovely to have the continuity bits intact! Pointless having a link to roobarb - it is 'members only.' I applied for access a few times but was invariably ignored. Please do not append links here that do not work.
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Post by charles drummel on Jan 6, 2019 4:00:33 GMT
IIRC he also recorded over the gunfighters & missed DMP 11. I think he retained all others but Holman's are superior before Volcano. Im guessing the sound editing people can take the multiple recordings, combine & filter them to produce the best possible soundtrack with widest range. A labor of love in homage to the originals. I had a look at Wiped!, and apparently only a few episodes from before Volcano were retained.
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Post by Michael D. Kimpton on Jan 8, 2019 2:07:12 GMT
I hope this hasn't been asked on here, as I'm never around as often as I used to be on the internet, bit I gotto ask...
How long until we can hear a few samples of the discoveries? Is Mark Ayres working towards some sort of comparison reel for us to keep us going until new commercial releases come about?
I'd especially love to hear comparisons with Toymaker, for example.
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Post by ianphillips on Jan 18, 2019 4:19:10 GMT
So how does the quality of these compare to the Graham Strong recordings and the David Holman recordings? From what I've heard so far I'm getting that these new tapes are somewhere between the two.
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Post by zaqwilson on Jan 18, 2019 7:00:19 GMT
I'm gathering the same, but info is scarce so far. Possibly higher quality recordings for eps prior to Dmp 8. Sound experts can use the new tapes to combine, clarify, and augment the DH eps for the most dynamic range outside grams crystal clear eps.... crossing fingers for release of DMP animation in future.
Looking forward to hearing more about this recovery!
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Post by John Green on Jan 18, 2019 9:25:08 GMT
Very curious to hear the apology! Absolutely lovely to have the continuity bits intact! Pointless having a link to roobarb - it is 'members only.' I applied for access a few times but was invariably ignored. Please do not append links here that do not work. Cripes. I hadn't realised that that section was 'members only'. Apologies.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 12:02:51 GMT
Do we know if these recordings are being used for the new Daleks' Master Plan Record being released?
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Post by charles drummel on Jan 19, 2019 13:19:55 GMT
Do we know if these recordings are being used for the new Daleks' Master Plan Record being released? They are not.
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Post by timmunton on Jan 19, 2019 13:27:28 GMT
Do we know if these recordings are being used for the new Daleks' Master Plan Record being released? They are not. Well I'd imagine that'll greatly reduce sales, knowing a better quality version re. some of the sound will be quite probable later (on cd or whatever) ...
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Post by Charles Daniels on Jan 24, 2019 6:31:48 GMT
Well I'd imagine that'll greatly reduce sales, knowing a better quality version re. some of the sound will be quite probable later (on cd or whatever) ... That record release is all style over substance anyway. I'm a huge fan and collector of vinyl, but realistically, considering the source tapes, I can't see any real improvement or justification for that release at a technical / objective level. However, I can understand it at a.. ritualistic level or an aesthetic level. Which is great stuff. But nothing something I'd personally drop £100 on, when I could use that money elsewhere.
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