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Post by Robert Lia on Mar 9, 2019 0:46:09 GMT
And that is the point, as a recreation it is being done as close (or reasonably close) to what it might have been like on original transmission. But a color version is available for those who want it so it does keep almost every one happy.
After all you get a black and white animation, a colour animation and a tele snap recon. The only thing missing is the original video.
Naturally there will be at least one person not happy about some part of this release and I am not talking about the horrible cover photo I have seen
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Post by Alan Hayes on Mar 9, 2019 17:41:51 GMT
After all you get a black and white animation, a colour animation and a tele snap recon. The only thing missing is the original video. I knew they'd forget something.
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Post by George D on Mar 9, 2019 19:00:43 GMT
There is rumor a scene is cut out. Is that true?
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Post by Robbie Moubert on Mar 9, 2019 20:34:21 GMT
There is rumor a scene is cut out. Is that true? The scene where the Doctor is put through the rough and tumble machine has been edited, with the loss of dialogue, due to time and money constraints.
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Post by mattg on Mar 9, 2019 21:06:55 GMT
There is rumor a scene is cut out. Is that true? The scene where the Doctor is put through the rough and tumble machine has been edited, with the loss of dialogue, due to time and money constraints. Hmm, well obviously deadlines are deadlines but one hopes that such a decision won't set a precedent for the exclusion of similar debatably frivolous scenes in future animated story releases. Not least because, as the scanned article from DWM confirming the omission so adroitly portends, "there'll be letters" (and e-mails, of complaint)! Regardless, said cut is hardly a 'deal breaker' (for me at least) but is still rather disappointing all the same.
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Post by Robert Lia on Mar 9, 2019 21:15:18 GMT
Considering Amazon UK has pushed my delivery date back again, I would say they are having trouble meeting there release date. Don't know why but it seems like this the animated release is slowly turning into a rush job and we have deleted scenes due to the time required to animate them properly.
You would think they could come up with alternative animation pictures for the scene in question so that they could leave the audio intact. After all I think its safe to say most of us never saw the scene in question in the first place
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Post by George D on Mar 10, 2019 10:06:56 GMT
I would rather have had that scene poorly animated than cut. My assumption is they needed to make a new model but perhaps there was workaround
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Post by stephenwit1 on Mar 10, 2019 19:55:23 GMT
Is there any reference material what the tossing machine looked like?
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Mar 10, 2019 20:17:17 GMT
I would rather have had that scene poorly animated than cut. My assumption is they needed to make a new model but perhaps there was workaround As the animation is more of a re-imagining of the original serial rather than a faithful animated recon, I suppose it gives the animation team the (poetic) licence to delete scenes according to requirements. I'm sure such a creative decision won't compromise the integrity of the end result which hopefully will be magnificent.
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Post by Alan Hayes on Mar 11, 2019 0:32:23 GMT
I would rather have had that scene poorly animated than cut. My assumption is they needed to make a new model but perhaps there was workaround Must admit, I'd rather it was cut than animated "poorly" as it'd be more distracting than knowing it was snipped. Can't say it bothers me. As long as the action is seamless and it's not blindingly obvious to the viewer that something is missing. The animations, as I see it, are a way of telling the stories in a much more accessible way than with a telesnap recon. I don't mind the occasional editorial decision being taken - particularly when the recon is also included and will be complete.
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Post by Robert Lia on Mar 11, 2019 2:24:16 GMT
I have to agree whilst I would prefer to have the scene in question intact it is included on the audio o tele snap recon and it is also available on the CD and cassette so the option to hear the scene is there. A very different situation to the scence snipped from The Evil of the Daleks due to the Beatles music issues when it was originally released on CD
This will be similar to Inferno episode 5 where Time Life in the USA got a scene that was cut out of the UK version the first time around but that the entire world outside of the UK got to see when it was sold abroad again in the 80's and included on the VHS release.
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Post by Michael D. Kimpton on Mar 11, 2019 21:17:03 GMT
Never cared much for Macra Terror. I see it in the same vein as Celestial Toymaker and The Smugglers; it's a VERY visual story where tele-snap recons or photograph recons don't seem to do it justice to me; I just can't feel the excitement the story had.
I AM sure the animation would change that for me, though.
It does pain me that material has been edited, however. I mean, it's a small scene, but still, it's a piece of missing material that should have been there, regardless of deadlines or what-have-you, cause that's how it was made.
For me, it would be the same as... say they decided to do a fully animated reconstruction of Marco Polo... Would they cut out the scene with Ping Cho's poem, or reduce the sword fight between Polo and Tegana?
The material lost in the 1970s purging is too precious to be edited by modern standards as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by simonashby on Mar 11, 2019 23:28:27 GMT
Is there any reference material what the tossing machine looked like? Highly pixelated I would guess.
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Post by Marty Schultz on Mar 11, 2019 23:45:03 GMT
It's very dissapointing that a scene has been cut. I wonder if a 'future' box set will 'restore' it? "NOW RELEASED WITH MISSING SCENE!!!" In better news... the R4 version is up on JB. Release date is 17/04. Doesn't seem to be a steelbook version.
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Post by michaeltetzlaff on Mar 13, 2019 19:12:45 GMT
Although it would be great to have a complete, uncut animation, I'm personally OK with them cutting some scenes in order to complete an animation on a budget. These animations aren't cheap, and I'm happy with any reasonable compromise that gets a new animation out there. It's also nice that they'll be including the (presumably unedited) telesnap recon with the narration track as an audio option.
I saw the edited-down 2-hour version of Genesis of the Daleks when it came to theaters in the US last year, and enjoyed it (having seen the full six-part version just a few weeks earlier). My wife and I could remember a few things that were missing, but nothing that kept us from appreciating the story. I also thought that the condensed "official" recon of Galaxy 4 was effective too. Maybe this isn't the case with Macra Terror, but there are certainly some missing stories that have a fair amount of "padding" that could be cut (especially 6-parters) in order to make animation more practical. And its not like that would keep them from offering an unedited telesnap recon as an alternative viewing option, so as to distribute all of the surviving material in one format or another.
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