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Post by Stephen John Connett on Nov 28, 2018 8:10:36 GMT
Does anyone know of the status of a Nationwide episode which had a feature on the controversial comic 'Action' in which an angry Frank Bough tore up the comic on screen. This would have been broadcast around 1976/77
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Post by timmunton on Nov 28, 2018 13:20:58 GMT
Sounds interesting Stephen.
Do you know why he tore it up?
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Post by Kev Hunter on Nov 28, 2018 17:38:40 GMT
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Post by Stephen John Connett on Nov 28, 2018 22:51:45 GMT
Sounds interesting Stephen. Do you know why he tore it up? There was a kind of folk panic at the time because of it's violent anti authority stories and apparently for some reason Franks Bough was particularly angry about it, hence the onscreen ripping. |
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Post by timmunton on Nov 29, 2018 12:28:39 GMT
Sounds interesting Stephen. Do you know why he tore it up? There was a kind of folk panic at the time because of it's violent anti authority stories and apparently for some reason Franks Bough was particularly angry about it, hence the onscreen ripping. Thanks Stephen. |
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Post by Stephen John Connett on Nov 29, 2018 13:41:27 GMT
Here's the relevant bit from an online article by someone called Moose Harris (https://downthetubes.net/?page_id=29301 ) Although it doesn't mention the comic ripping but does say The BBC have destroyed the footage apparently. What a surprise
'At the end of September, Sanders was invited to appear on the BBC’s early evening magazine programme Nationwide. Sanders believes that the presenter that night was Frank Bough, later revealed to have extremely high moral standards of his own, although this is debatable, as another presenter’s name is also mentioned. Unfortunately, according to sources at the BBC, the corporation have destroyed the archive footage, so any claims cannot be verified.
Bough went through a list of questions with Sanders prior to the live broadcast. However, as soon as the item went on air, Bough strayed from the pre-planned format and launched an attack on both Sanders and the comic. Sanders defended his position and the position of IPC as publisher, once again arguing the case with reference to other forms of violent media that were freely available to children, but as he stood up for his creation, forces within IPC acted to bring him down. Members of the editorial staff had gathered to watch the programme at King’s Reach Tower, IPC’s London office. Among them was Jack Le Grand, the man who had always wanted Action to fail'.
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Post by Stephen John Connett on Nov 29, 2018 14:10:26 GMT
Just had a look at Kaleidoscope's TV Brain listings for 'Nationwide' and it's shocking, nearly all episodes listed as missing except a few listed as recorded on domestic formats, probably by viewers at home.
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Post by garygraham on Nov 29, 2018 17:40:47 GMT
Just had a look at Kaleidoscope's TV Brain listings for 'Nationwide' and it's shocking, nearly all episodes listed as missing except a few listed as recorded on domestic formats, probably by viewers at home. You can see why they didn't though. Imagine two hundred costly 2 inch tapes every year, each the size of a portable typewriter. Enough to fill a small room every year. Plus all the bureaucracy of keeping them. It's a shame there wasn't more of a policy of transferring significant interviews from programmes across the board. But that would have tied up resources which could be used for programme making instead. Easier to let the live video sections slip away into memory and keep just the 16mm inserts (possibly). |
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Post by Richard Marple on Nov 29, 2018 18:10:33 GMT
Luckily the insert tape of Katie Manning being interviewed survived.
Were any earlier ones transferred to a domestic format for viewing copies?
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Post by garygraham on Nov 30, 2018 13:15:57 GMT
From VHS: 1983 when someone forgot to fade up the lights on Sue Lawley.  |
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Post by Mark Tinkler on Nov 30, 2018 14:47:12 GMT
So here's a tale - few years back, I was working on a doc about Paul Weller, and knew that Nationwide did a piece on the last gig by The Jam (at Brighton I think).
The film of the report was still in the BBC archive but not the whole prog - but the VHS of the PasB was. So I bounced the Bob Wellings studio intro from that VHS onto TX format and we used that...
Quite a few Nationwide's did survive in the BBC film & VT archive as off-air recordings - quite where they all are know (now that the VHS holdings were all disposed of by the BBC), I have no idea.
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Post by garygraham on Nov 30, 2018 16:00:28 GMT
Recently in a Granada Facebook group a man who says he was responsible for transferring the Granada Archive to DigiBeta said that at that time some episodes of Coronation Street only existed on VHS.
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Post by Richard Marple on Nov 30, 2018 17:37:41 GMT
I remember someone mentioning years ago that an episode of Coronation Street repeated on Granada Plus looked very poor quality & cropped at the top of the image, as if it was a time-coded viewing copy.
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Post by garygraham on Dec 1, 2018 15:42:59 GMT
I remember someone mentioning years ago that an episode of Coronation Street repeated on Granada Plus looked very poor quality & cropped at the top of the image, as if it was a time-coded viewing copy. Interesting. I think a vast amount of unique stuff has been lost as VHS collections have been thrown out. Particularly continuity, ads and regional bits. The opportunity has gone now. |
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Post by richardwoods on Dec 1, 2018 21:27:56 GMT
In my job I visit 3 to 4 domestic properties every day. Sufficient to say around here (western mid Wales) there are a lot of folks with large VHS collections still, especially recordings from S4C in Welsh Speaking households. Went to one property recently & they had an entire wall shelved, floor to ceiling with dated recordings, mainly Welsh language back to 1980 so there's still plenty out there.
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