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Post by Richard Marple on Nov 23, 2018 12:32:27 GMT
I presume the BBC weren't automatically making telerecordings of every episode to use as viewing copies.
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Post by Ralph Rose on Nov 23, 2018 20:03:11 GMT
I presume the BBC weren't automatically making telerecordings of every episode to use as viewing copies. No, because you wouldn't be able to view a negative as a viewing copy. Some episodes were Telerecorded at the time of transmission. Some episodes the master tape was called up to be telerecorded at a later date. As I understand it, the theory with the Feast of Steven, a negative might have been created by Enterprises, as the standing orders were to telerecord Doctor Who, but without a positive print ever being struck from it. This theory was debated between the members of the restoration team, but I do not remember which ones were for or against. Paul Vanezis might recall?
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Post by lousingh on Nov 26, 2018 0:15:54 GMT
Shot in the dark: is it possible illicit duplicates were made anyway? If so, how could we find out?
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Post by Robbie Moubert on Nov 26, 2018 3:15:39 GMT
Shot in the dark: is it possible illicit duplicates were made anyway? You can't prove a negative (no pun intended!) so I guess we'd have to say it's possible but seems extremely unlikely. Beats me! How do you investigate something that probably didn't happen and that wasn't supposed to be happening?! I'd imagine there's a good chance any hypothetical bootlegger would be dead now anyway.
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Post by Richard Bignell on Nov 26, 2018 11:07:32 GMT
As I understand it, the theory with the Feast of Steven, a negative might have been created by Enterprises, as the standing orders were to telerecord Doctor Who, but without a positive print ever being struck from it. There was no "standing order". A specific request had to be made for each and every episode to be film recorded.
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Post by Ralph Rose on Nov 27, 2018 7:26:24 GMT
As I understand it, the theory with the Feast of Steven, a negative might have been created by Enterprises, as the standing orders were to telerecord Doctor Who, but without a positive print ever being struck from it. There was no "standing order". A specific request had to be made for each and every episode to be film recorded. Thanks Richard for the information and chiming in. So if that is the case, as I will admit I am out of date a bit, that would make the whole theory about the Feast of Steven moot wouldn't it? Because I cannot believe Enterprises would make a negative without being told or asked about it in some way. So, do you know the logistics in how these theories came to be plausible between certain members of the Restoration team in the first place? Thanks for the replies...
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Post by Ace St.John on Nov 27, 2018 17:51:25 GMT
Phill Morris has said somewhere that he is quite sure now that Feast of Steven was Telerecorded
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Post by Robert Lia on Nov 27, 2018 22:14:47 GMT
AS BBC Enterprises may not have known the content of the episode in advance of recording (other than it fell on Christmas Day 1965) they might have made the recording and then opted not to offer it as part of the story. So the negative might have gotten destroyed before a film recording could have been made.
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Post by Ace St.John on Nov 28, 2018 2:07:15 GMT
AS BBC Enterprises may not have known the content of the episode in advance of recording (other than it fell on Christmas Day 1965) they might have made the recording and then opted not to offer it as part of the story. So the negative might have gotten destroyed before a film recording could have been made. If so.... then maybe they could have made a viewing copy (positive print) from this theoretically possible negative telerecording of ep7 DMP
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Post by Nicholas Fitzpatrick on Nov 28, 2018 2:30:31 GMT
If so.... then maybe they could have made a viewing copy (positive print) from this theoretically possible negative telerecording of ep7 DMP That's the possibility that's been raised here and elsewhere about umpty-nine times. There's no evidence of it. But it's not impossible.
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Post by Jon Preddle on Nov 28, 2018 3:30:50 GMT
AS BBC Enterprises may not have known the content of the episode in advance of recording (other than it fell on Christmas Day 1965) they might have made the recording and then opted not to offer it as part of the story. So the negative might have gotten destroyed before a film recording could have been made. If so.... then maybe they could have made a viewing copy (positive print) from this theoretically possible negative telerecording of ep7 DMP Even a viewing copy would have to be paid for by someone or from a department's budget in order to have it made. A film print cost around 10+ pounds then.
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Post by Ralph Rose on Nov 28, 2018 7:24:58 GMT
I highly doubt a positive print was ever struck. A negative being created however... It's intriguing to say the least.
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Post by richardwoods on Nov 28, 2018 18:28:51 GMT
Didn't someone involved in the production, (a camera man maybe?) claim that a copy was made. I seem to remember reading somewhere a long time ago or perhaps it's just wishful thinking.
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Post by Ace St.John on Nov 28, 2018 19:49:54 GMT
Didn't someone involved in the production, (a camera man maybe?) claim that a copy was made. I seem to remember reading somewhere a long time ago or perhaps it's just wishful thinking. Are you possibly thinking off Dalek Operator Robert Jewell taking offscreen photographs on transmission because he appeared as a character in this episode? He played Buster Keaton I think.
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Post by Robert Lia on Nov 28, 2018 22:11:12 GMT
Well the camera man making the recording could have seen what he was filming (along with others who were watching) and simply deemed the episode not sales worthy and simply disposed of the negative before a viewing print was ever made.
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