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Post by Robert Lia on Oct 29, 2018 21:10:46 GMT
Heck as long as they animate something new I will be happy. But Scott is right you need to mix in the bog standard monster story's / historical story's along with the mega monster story's or were going to end up with all the historical story's at the end of the run and the line will die a slow death.
I say do The Crusades and The Macra Terror as you get 2 story's for 4 animated episodes. Then follow it up with The Wheel in Space. Just my 2 cents worth
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Post by charles drummel on Oct 29, 2018 22:05:28 GMT
Animating Wheel would complete the Cybermen serials and require four episodes. Another possibility is, of course, Evil - it would require six episodes and there are telesnaps. I concluded a while ago that prints are extremely unlikely to turn up.
Burning up the marketable stories early on is not going to end well. I still stand by the fact that The Macra Terror is the best option for the next release for the long term, as much as I'd love the tabloids to fall flat on their face (which the Brit Box Wheel would do anyway). There's twenty serials to get through still, I advise caution with going for the obvious ones so The Macra Terror provides a middle ground by being a bog standard monster story even if there isn't an obvious marketing hook like the Cybermen.
Agreed. And it's perhaps unfortunate that some which might be the hardest to pitch or market for the animation treatment are ones without telesnaps: Myth Makers, Space Pirates, and The Massacre. If those ones don't get animated, it's not likely they will have any official visual form of episodes. DMP, also in this category is long and expensive, but at least highly desirable and marketable. Celestial Toymaker and (clearly) Galaxy 4 have enough footage and photographs to get by as recons even without telesnaps, if it comes down to it. For anything else, if the animations cease, there can still be something included in season sets, on streaming sites, and so on. But the three I mentioned will probably be tricky.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Oct 29, 2018 22:14:46 GMT
Animating Wheel would complete the Cybermen serials and require four episodes. Another possibility is, of course, Evil - it would require six episodes and there are telesnaps. I concluded a while ago that prints are extremely unlikely to turn up. Burning up the marketable stories early on is not going to end well. I still stand by the fact that The Macra Terror is the best option for the next release for the long term, as much as I'd love the tabloids to fall flat on their face (which the Brit Box Wheel would do anyway). There's twenty serials to get through still, I advise caution with going for the obvious ones so The Macra Terror provides a middle ground by being a bog standard monster story even if there isn't an obvious marketing hook like the Cybermen.
I don't mind what gets left.If it's an original series animation then I'll buy it-even the driest historical. What matters to me is that it comes as a complete package - production notes and commentary,whether that commentary is live or archival such as in the superb Moonbase release. If these features are missing,then I feel short-changed!
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Post by John Wall on Oct 29, 2018 23:18:01 GMT
Animating Wheel would complete the Cybermen serials and require four episodes. Another possibility is, of course, Evil - it would require six episodes and there are telesnaps. I concluded a while ago that prints are extremely unlikely to turn up. Burning up the marketable stories early on is not going to end well. I still stand by the fact that The Macra Terror is the best option for the next release for the long term, as much as I'd love the tabloids to fall flat on their face (which the Brit Box Wheel would do anyway). There's twenty serials to get through still, I advise caution with going for the obvious ones so The Macra Terror provides a middle ground by being a bog standard monster story even if there isn't an obvious marketing hook like the Cybermen.
Until December we won’t know for certain but good quality animation costs and if they’re going to continue they have to sell. We can keep speculating but have to accept that some of us will be wrong.
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Post by andrewfrostick on Oct 30, 2018 10:43:28 GMT
If it is correct that it is a single episode animation, then the most logical single episode that has next to no chance of being recovered is Mission to the Unknown? Daleks would be commercially attractive, and a lot of work would have been done on Power animation. It would be good to see if a new more sophisticated style could be developed that Captain Pugwash
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Post by markmartin on Oct 30, 2018 11:26:19 GMT
My suspicion is that they have an eye on the 'season' box sets and currently they have no complete seasons for either of the first two Doctors. The easiest to complete is Season 2 (2 episodes of the Crusade missing) but given the way they've released them so far, my money would be on Season 1, which measn they'd have to animate all of Marco Polo. But that'd be my guess. they might even only release it as a complete boxset to 'persuade' people to splash out on it...
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Post by charles drummel on Oct 30, 2018 11:44:48 GMT
My suspicion is that they have an eye on the 'season' box sets and currently they have no complete seasons for either of the first two Doctors. The easiest to complete is Season 2 (2 episodes of the Crusade missing) but given the way they've released them so far, my money would be on Season 1, which measn they'd have to animate all of Marco Polo. But that'd be my guess. they might even only release it as a complete boxset to 'persuade' people to splash out on it... I think any new animation will likely get a standalone release in addition to the season set, to cash in on 'double dipping' (by staggering the releases) and to get sales from people who aren't interested in one of those formats. But some might be exclusives that start out on season sets. It's hard to imagine an Underwater Menace Special Edition DVD going over very well, given the state of the last one.
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Post by Nicholas Fitzpatrick on Oct 30, 2018 13:24:31 GMT
Brit box version is crap. A huge let down paying to watch 25 minutes of still pictures. You must have been looking at something else, as I believe the BritBox version is almost 93 minutes of still pictures. Though as the programme for MBW clearly says "brand new animation of a missing Doctor Who episode", it's pretty clear that it's not an older non-animation! Presumably an episode of an upcoming DVD release in the vein of the 2017 Power of the Daleks release. My suspicion is that they have an eye on the 'season' box sets and currently they have no complete seasons for either of the first two Doctors. The easiest to complete is Season 2 (2 episodes of the Crusade missing) but given the way they've released them so far, my money would be on Season 1, which measn they'd have to animate all of Marco Polo. But that'd be my guess. they might even only release it as a complete boxset to 'persuade' people to splash out on it... A possibility. Though with the third box set apparently being Season 10 (Pertwee's fourth season), then Season 2 is relatively easy given they were willing to animate 6 episodes of Power. Which makes Season 6 a distinct possibility as well, with only 5 episodes needed to complete Space Pirates. Mind you, with all the missing Season 3 through 5 episodes, one could also argue they could be starting there, to give them time to complete the seasons. So anything really ...
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Post by John Wall on Oct 30, 2018 15:27:12 GMT
If it is correct that it is a single episode animation, then the most logical single episode that has next to no chance of being recovered is Mission to the Unknown? Daleks would be commercially attractive, and a lot of work would have been done on Power animation. It would be good to see if a new more sophisticated style could be developed that Captain Pugwash They’re just showing a single episode because of time constraints. A four part story would take 100 minutes and there is other material to show.
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Post by Stephen Neve on Oct 30, 2018 15:45:16 GMT
If it is correct that it is a single episode animation, then the most logical single episode that has next to no chance of being recovered is Mission to the Unknown? Daleks would be commercially attractive, and a lot of work would have been done on Power animation. It would be good to see if a new more sophisticated style could be developed that Captain Pugwash They’re just showing a single episode because of time constraints. A four part story would take 100 minutes and there is other material to show. Plus the BBC are going to want us to fork out some cash for the DVD release, blue ray release so you can see it in colour, at some stage and the double and triple extra special edition years later.
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Post by John Wall on Oct 30, 2018 15:49:13 GMT
They’re just showing a single episode because of time constraints. A four part story would take 100 minutes and there is other material to show. Plus the BBC are going to want us to fork out some cash for the DVD release, blue ray release so you can see it in colour, at some stage and the double and triple extra special edition years later. I suspect there may be some complaints about showing a 25 minute animation instead of recovered material.
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Post by andrewfrostick on Oct 30, 2018 19:19:11 GMT
If it is correct that it is a single episode animation, then the most logical single episode that has next to no chance of being recovered is Mission to the Unknown? Daleks would be commercially attractive, and a lot of work would have been done on Power animation. It would be good to see if a new more sophisticated style could be developed that Captain Pugwash They’re just showing a single episode because of time constraints. A four part story would take 100 minutes and there is other material to show. Thanks, it wasn’t clear. That makes things far more interesting. The Crusade would make sense in that case unless it’s seen as an un-PC hot potato?
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Post by John Wall on Oct 30, 2018 21:43:54 GMT
They’re just showing a single episode because of time constraints. A four part story would take 100 minutes and there is other material to show. Thanks, it wasn’t clear. That makes things far more interesting. The Crusade would make sense in that case unless it’s seen as an un-PC hot potato? The point I was trying to make is that the slot at NFT is a couple of hours entitled “Music and More” and the highlight is a clip of Vince Hill, introduced by him. There are, of course, other recoveries to show. There could have been any number of episodes animated, or being animated, but considering the time constraints they’re not going to show more than one. It’s theoretically possible that somebody looked down the back of the sofa and found sufficient cash to animate all of the missing DMP including Mission to the Unknown and Feast of Steven - they’d still only show a maximum of one episode.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Oct 30, 2018 22:00:57 GMT
Brit box version is crap. A huge let down paying to watch 25 minutes of still pictures. You must have been looking at something else, as I believe the BritBox version is almost 93 minutes of still pictures. Though as the programme for MBW clearly says "brand new animation of a missing Doctor Who episode", it's pretty clear that it's not an older non-animation! Presumably an episode of an upcoming DVD release in the vein of the 2017 Power of the Daleks release. My suspicion is that they have an eye on the 'season' box sets and currently they have no complete seasons for either of the first two Doctors. The easiest to complete is Season 2 (2 episodes of the Crusade missing) but given the way they've released them so far, my money would be on Season 1, which measn they'd have to animate all of Marco Polo. But that'd be my guess. they might even only release it as a complete boxset to 'persuade' people to splash out on it... A possibility. Though with the third box set apparently being Season 10 (Pertwee's fourth season), then Season 2 is relatively easy given they were willing to animate 6 episodes of Power. Which makes Season 6 a distinct possibility as well, with only 5 episodes needed to complete Space Pirates. Mind you, with all the missing Season 3 through 5 episodes, one could also argue they could be starting there, to give them time to complete the seasons. So anything really ... Jesus H Christ, please don't make me buy any more box-sets.I bought the S12 one and regretted giving away the original DVDs.I really don't want to buy Kinda or The Sensorites again with all the newly contrived extras.I'm really going to pick and choose just like the Complete History partworks.Can you imagine THAT being te-issued in years to come with extra facts omitted from the original volumes? I can definitely predict that is going to happen!
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Post by Robert Lia on Oct 30, 2018 22:35:10 GMT
You must have been looking at something else, as I believe the BritBox version is almost 93 minutes of still pictures. Though as the programme for MBW clearly says "brand new animation of a missing Doctor Who episode", it's pretty clear that it's not an older non-animation! Presumably an episode of an upcoming DVD release in the vein of the 2017 Power of the Daleks release. A possibility. Though with the third box set apparently being Season 10 (Pertwee's fourth season), then Season 2 is relatively easy given they were willing to animate 6 episodes of Power. Which makes Season 6 a distinct possibility as well, with only 5 episodes needed to complete Space Pirates. Mind you, with all the missing Season 3 through 5 episodes, one could also argue they could be starting there, to give them time to complete the seasons. So anything really ... Jesus H Christ, please don't make me buy any more box-sets.I bought the S12 one and regretted giving away the original DVDs.I really don't want to buy Kinda or The Sensorites again with all the newly contrived extras.I'm really going to pick and choose just like the Complete History partworks.Can you imagine THAT being te-issued in years to come with extra facts omitted from the original volumes? I can definitely predict that is going to happen! That is one of the reasons why I have stayed away from all these new books on the history of Dr. Who. We have so much information that has come out over the years in Doctor Who Monthly and so on over the years as well as other books, I'm not going to spring for them again just to get a few extra bits of new information that I did not know. For newer fans I say go for it especially if you don't have the information but for the rest of us I can use my data base of books and magazines already sitting on my shelf's for the most part
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