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Post by Charles Daniels on Oct 18, 2018 6:57:19 GMT
]No, I meant the boxy logo. I wasn't going into too much detail as I don't think there's anything here anyway. On second glance at the photo, it says faintly at the bottom 'Please return to TV and Film Library Windmill Rd'. That is where the archive used to be before moving to Perivale in 2011. So that print was from the BBC archives. You can tell from the ageing on the labels that they're quite old too. Nothing to see here. There are still some possibilities, aren't there? What if it was in the BBC archives, back in the late 70s, and someone lifted out Aztecs 1 and Marco 4? It's a long shot but it must still be a possibility. And maybe the person who held them was a film collector saying "Look, buy them both or I won't sell." I wouldn't mind if there was any other picture of this can at all online and Phil had just grabbed a stock photo and used it on his website. Or if someone could pipe up and say "Mate, that's just the can of the copy Ian Levine found at Villiers House back in 1978."
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Post by Charles Daniels on Oct 18, 2018 7:04:54 GMT
Which fits in perfectly with 2008. Here's a video of Windmill Road. The start time I have the video link set to shows one of the same angles as Phil's photo on his main page. In fact, I thought he might have lifted it from there until I took a closer look at the carts in front! youtu.be/S3Z2djrAW2M?t=22So, I would suggest that all of these photos from the Fujifilm camera may be from Phil's visit to Windmill Road in 2008, as described by Paul. The stacked film cans on the TIEA website definitely do look to be pictures of the Windmill Road site. I'll go through that video when I've got a bit more time and see if the roof anywhere matches up with the roof seen in the series of pictures timestamped 3:55am - 5:03am If I can find that roof somewhere in the Windmill Road location, or the set up of domestic format machines, then this looks pretty solved.
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Post by Charles Daniels on Oct 18, 2018 7:10:06 GMT
So, I would suggest that all of these photos from the Fujifilm camera may be from Phil's visit to Windmill Road in 2008, as described by Paul. AH! I think you've cracked it. Unless Phil has bought the exact same blue units, I think the Windmill Road is by far the easiest explanation.
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Post by Charles Daniels on Oct 18, 2018 7:20:33 GMT
This revelation does put a rather, unfortunate, complexion on things.
Are we to read the TIEA website as saying it has access to these facilities?
Looking at it as an outsider, the website does rather come off as if TIEA has these as its own facilities. If they are just 10 year old photos from a tour of Windmill Road, it seems a bit like... misrepresentation.
Sorry if I'm incorrect in anyway. No offence intended.
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Post by Simon Collis on Oct 20, 2018 15:29:39 GMT
This revelation does put a rather, unfortunate, complexion on things. Are we to read the TIEA website as saying it has access to these facilities? Looking at it as an outsider, the website does rather come off as if TIEA has these as its own facilities. If they are just 10 year old photos from a tour of Windmill Road, it seems a bit like... misrepresentation. Sorry if I'm incorrect in anyway. No offence intended. Misrepresentation? Perhaps, but perhaps not. It's possible that he came up with the text while travelling and someone else updated the website and the conversation went something like this: "have you got some images I can use?" "Yeah, probably. Have you got a copy of the main photos folder?" "Not right now" "Hmm, they're at home and I can't get to them from this laptop. Well here's an idea - just use some of the 2008 Windmill Road visit for now, we'll put something more relevant next time."
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Post by charles drummel on Oct 20, 2018 16:25:32 GMT
This revelation does put a rather, unfortunate, complexion on things. Are we to read the TIEA website as saying it has access to these facilities? Looking at it as an outsider, the website does rather come off as if TIEA has these as its own facilities. If they are just 10 year old photos from a tour of Windmill Road, it seems a bit like... misrepresentation. Sorry if I'm incorrect in anyway. No offence intended. Misrepresentation? Perhaps, but perhaps not. It's possible that he came up with the text while travelling and someone else updated the website and the conversation went something like this: "have you got some images I can use?" "Yeah, probably. Have you got a copy of the main photos folder?" "Not right now" "Hmm, they're at home and I can't get to them from this laptop. Well here's an idea - just use some of the 2008 Windmill Road visit for now, we'll put something more relevant next time." Well, I think it's no harm done as, despite any implications there may be, it's not specifically stated that the equipment or film belong to TIEA. Plus, we dont know if he may indeed have arrangements to use the equipment in certain cases, I suppose? But as far as the "next time" theory goes, some of the images were there back in 2013. Others were added just a few weeks ago and the entire site was updated a few days before the One Show reveal. All of the text changed then, and the photos have edit dates from that week.
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