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Post by Chris Wilkinson on Aug 12, 2018 14:30:07 GMT
Aside from the unusually large amount of content relating to the Scottish National Party ( ), a search for Dalek clips on the Getty Images online database contains entries for the original Dalek serials from Doctor Who. Episodes from The Power of the Daleks are rightly listed as missing episodes (referred to as 'MISSING EPISODE-SEE BELOW'), and episodes such as Master Plan #2, #5 and #10 are rightly addressed as being in existence as they lack this tag.
However, the entry for what is referred to as Dalek Cutaway: Mission to the Unknown is:
DR WHO:DALEK CUTAWAY - MISSION TO THE UNKNOWN (09 October 1965, BBC_LDL5790D): Sci-Fi Drama. 1/1. On the planet Kembel, Space Security Service agent Marc Cory is investigating a recent sighting of a Dalek spaceship. His suspicion that the creatures may have established a base here proves well-founded. Film recording, sp s 35mm sound, cpyrt music
There is no mention of 'MISSING EPISODE-SEE BELOW' despite its presence being accurate for every other episode. 'Film recording, sp s 35mm' is applied to all episodes that are listed and that are in existence, yet it is also applied here to an episode that doesn't exist. I can adduce that the reference to '35mm' is inaccurate as this is listed across several episodes - but again, only the ones in existence. Though this is likely an administrative error, it seems a highly unusual one to make for a single-episode serial.
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Post by Simon Collis on Aug 13, 2018 22:38:24 GMT
I expect Phil Morris will already have thought of commercial film libraries and covered those in his search, I suppose? Or I hope so, anyway.
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Post by RWels on Aug 14, 2018 12:14:09 GMT
Aside from the unusually large amount of content relating to the Scottish National Party ( ), a search for Dalek clips on the Getty Images online database contains entries for the original Dalek serials from Doctor Who. Episodes from The Power of the Daleks are rightly listed as missing episodes (referred to as 'MISSING EPISODE-SEE BELOW'), and episodes such as Master Plan #2, #5 and #10 are rightly addressed as being in existence as they lack this tag.
However, the entry for what is referred to as Dalek Cutaway: Mission to the Unknown is:
DR WHO:DALEK CUTAWAY - MISSION TO THE UNKNOWN (09 October 1965, BBC_LDL5790D): Sci-Fi Drama. 1/1. On the planet Kembel, Space Security Service agent Marc Cory is investigating a recent sighting of a Dalek spaceship. His suspicion that the creatures may have established a base here proves well-founded. Film recording, sp s 35mm sound, cpyrt music
There is no mention of 'MISSING EPISODE-SEE BELOW' despite its presence being accurate for every other episode. 'Film recording, sp s 35mm' is applied to all episodes that are listed and that are in existence, yet it is also applied here to an episode that doesn't exist. I can adduce that the reference to '35mm' is inaccurate as this is listed across several episodes - but again, only the ones in existence. Though this is likely an administrative error, it seems a highly unusual one to make for a single-episode serial. There's probably, just as you suggested, some explanation other than that it suddenly exists. This database used to be BBC property until a few years ago when it was sold to Getty. So it's bound to be BBC-rich. I've seen DW items in its predecessor that I asked about at the time but they turned out to be the audio-only recordings. Or maybe they list an item with its original specifications for which there are any holdings even if it's just a photograph. Something like that. Cf. the BFI catalog lists some (non-who) episodes that shouldn't exist complete... and sure enough, they are reconstructions.
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Post by matthewpurchase on Aug 15, 2018 8:18:31 GMT
This was spotted a year ago. I think it's just some not very clever wording from Getty's part. Some further details appear once you sign in and it mentions it's missing.
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Post by Chris Wilkinson on Aug 15, 2018 22:53:41 GMT
This was spotted a year ago. I think it's just some not very clever wording from Getty's part. Some further details appear once you sign in and it mentions it's missing. Are there any other examples of cataloguing that people have found that feature erroneous information such as this? I wish people would be more careful...
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Post by zaqwilson on Aug 15, 2018 23:00:51 GMT
This was spotted a year ago. I think it's just some not very clever wording from Getty's part. Some further details appear once you sign in and it mentions it's missing. Are there any other examples of cataloguing that people have found that feature erroneous information such as this? I wish people would be more careful... Likley too many to count. Some are just miss represented, most are genuine errors, a few *might* be the just to rile and stir up a buzz. Example, when I worked at my college library, we would sometimes create bogus index cards and entries for items such as Guttenberg bible, Stephen King novels that never existed, the necronomicon, etc. Most were ignored, but once we had a guy almost tear the place appart to find a bogus item. When it couldn't be found, conspiracy was claimed.
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Post by Leighton Haberfield on Aug 19, 2018 19:10:33 GMT
Gorgeous photo from the set of MTTU popped up on Twitter this week
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Aug 19, 2018 21:13:03 GMT
Gorgeous photo from the set of MTTU popped up on Twitter this week Show?
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Post by EJR Tairne on Aug 20, 2018 3:17:05 GMT
Example, when I worked at my college library, we would sometimes create bogus index cards and entries for items such as Guttenberg bible, Stephen King novels that never existed, the necronomicon, etc. Most were ignored, but once we had a guy almost tear the place appart to find a bogus item. When it couldn't be found, conspiracy was claimed. Work of the saints. *Cheff kiss.*
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Post by Leighton Haberfield on Aug 29, 2018 18:11:58 GMT
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Post by Charles Daniels on Sept 20, 2018 10:18:25 GMT
I still haven't seen it now. Link broken?
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Post by Ace St.John on Sept 21, 2018 0:15:44 GMT
If you type Daleks into the search engine that is on screen and click search there are some interesting results that come up...
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Post by Chris Wilkinson on Sept 21, 2018 8:42:23 GMT
Does the edition of Nationwide (TX: 22 February 1972) or the BBC Show of the Week: 'Max Bygraves Entertains' (TX: 4 November 1965) exist in the archives?
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Post by Richard Bignell on Sept 21, 2018 9:37:54 GMT
Does the edition of Nationwide (TX: 22 February 1972) or the BBC Show of the Week: 'Max Bygraves Entertains' (TX: 4 November 1965) exist in the archives? If you're referring to the Dalek segments in these programmes, Max Bygraves Entertains doesn't exist, but the film sequences to that edition of Nationwide do and that section has happy been available to all since 2011 when Day of the Daleks was released on DVD.
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Post by Chris Wilkinson on Sept 21, 2018 21:09:25 GMT
Does the edition of Nationwide (TX: 22 February 1972) or the BBC Show of the Week: 'Max Bygraves Entertains' (TX: 4 November 1965) exist in the archives? If you're referring to the Dalek segments in these programmes, Max Bygraves Entertains doesn't exist, but the film sequences to that edition of Nationwide do and that section has happy been available to all since 2011 when Day of the Daleks was released on DVD. I don't have the Day of the Daleks DVD, but that's given me a reason to buy it!
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