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Post by Chris Wilkinson on Jul 8, 2018 1:17:08 GMT
Still banking on The Wheel in Space / The Abominable Snowmen duo being the final two full-story candidates for recovery based on the 2013 recoveries. Aside from that, it's The Web of Fear #3, The Daleks' Master Plan #4 and The Power of the Daleks #6. What we know is not what we don't know - there could be others, but what is certain is that right now there are a set number of episodes still in existence, and the longer time goes on the less there will be to recover.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jul 8, 2018 8:35:21 GMT
Still banking on The Wheel in Space / The Abominable Snowmen duo being the final two full-story candidates for recovery based on the 2013 recoveries. Aside from that, it's The Web of Fear #3, The Daleks' Master Plan #4 and The Power of the Daleks #6. What we know is not what we don't know - there could be others, but what is certain is that right now there are a set number of episodes still in existence, and the longer time goes on the less there will be to recover. I think it's the other way round actually.The 2013 recoveries where just a snapshot of what's out there. The documentary with PM on the EOTW SE is a clever sleight of hand on many levels, the most obvious being it only concerns the WOF and EOTW recoveries and only a small region of Africa. My theory is that the practices which allowed those serials, against all odds to survive must have been replicated elsewhere in Africa-hopefully a culture that meant that more was recovered. And that means more will come eventually come back.
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Post by richardwoods on Jul 8, 2018 8:41:51 GMT
Since metropolis showed up 80 years later and missing tv is still surfacing, it is hard to be sure no more dr who will show up. That being said, unless someone is hoarding I don't expect an omni rumor level find Metropolis wasn't completely gone, it only had chunks missing. OT but let's hope a more complete copy of Greed turns up too!
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Post by Richard Marple on Jul 8, 2018 9:14:37 GMT
I'm not giving up hope, even if there are only an odd episode or 2 still around.
It's possible some are still in private film collections, where the owners don't know they are missing material.
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Post by adamjordan on Jul 8, 2018 10:11:12 GMT
I woildn’t be surprised if the episodes Paul has knowledge of are the missing eps of Reign.
I believe we will see that story complete one day.
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Post by EJR Tairne on Jul 8, 2018 10:49:05 GMT
I woildn’t be surprised if the episodes Paul has knowledge of are the missing eps of Reign. I believe we will see that story complete one day. This is what I was half-expecting as well. Which wouldn't be the most crucial or exciting thing, but it'd sure be a step up from that animation.
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Post by samnurden on Jul 8, 2018 19:33:13 GMT
I woildn’t be surprised if the episodes Paul has knowledge of are the missing eps of Reign. I believe we will see that story complete one day. Honestly, I've always said personally that we will probably have a complete series 1 & 2 of Hartnell stories, someday. Series 2 is missing what, like, 2 episodes of the Crusade? And series 1 just has Marco Polo and Reign Of Terror. All of which, were the most widely sold abroad out of all 6 series, I think. To keep it real, though, there's a much higher chance of that happening, since series 3 and 4 took a massive dive in what was aired abroad. Then again, we have nothing of Marco and 3 episodes of DMP, which apparently is so lucky, it shouldn't be a thing. So who honestly knows in this life, eh?
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Post by kurt devery on Jul 8, 2018 21:22:17 GMT
The lack of follow up special edition DVDs after the Enemy Of The World gives me hope that something is going on behind the scenes...if no chance then why not just go ahead and double dip on Web for example ...that's just my opinion
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Post by Luke Sherlaw on Jul 9, 2018 2:28:38 GMT
A very easy "No, more is on its way" for me. Paul Vanezis knows of a few episodes that are in private hands, Web of fear 3 is being hoarded, I do believe Phil Morris will find some more (Wheel in space/snowmen being the most probable 2), I also wouldn't be surprised if a few more episodes are in private hands unbeknownst to their owners.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jul 9, 2018 10:27:20 GMT
I'm optimistic.. but then I am an optimist! So yes, more to come!
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Post by zaqwilson on Jul 9, 2018 15:44:50 GMT
More will see the light of day, how many and when Is hard to divine.
I Do not believe there are many left if the wild--sitting on some shelf, long forgotten.
Likely, they have been hoovered up by searchers and or collectors. I believe collectors are sitting on quite a few more eps beyond what is being claimed or known. My thoughts are they were corralled long before the wiping halted in 78. Most of their status is known and concealed. When collectors die, some items will be binned, but if family members know of the collection, most collections are deemed to have value, inheritors would likely make some inquiries as to their value and thus items will slowly come to light.
My opinion, even before 2013, was the permanently missing episodes count will come to rest somewhere in the 80s, many years down the road.
More to come, but not likely full stories, more likely orphans.
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Post by rmackenziefehr on Jul 9, 2018 21:01:27 GMT
I suspect that more is to come (one can't prove a negative, and I doubt we'll ever find out with precision what happened to every print).
However, I have two caveats:
1) No prediction on when this will be- it could be shortly, or it could be close to a decade from now;
2) If past history means anything, the stuff most rumored about being found won't be, and the recoveries will be ones that were not predicted beforehand.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jul 9, 2018 21:33:14 GMT
I suspect that more is to come (one can't prove a negative, and I doubt we'll ever find out with precision what happened to every print). However, I have two caveats: 1) No prediction on when this will be- it could be shortly, or it could be close to a decade from now; 2) If past history means anything, the stuff most rumored about being found won't be, and the recoveries will be ones that were not predicted beforehand. I beg to differ-if there's anything that history has shown is that those serials rumoured to exist eventually do turn up. Groundswell in fandom is always a good indicator of what exists in my opinion. It isn't just idle rumour-mongering,it has a basis in fact.It's just that it's a long time coming.
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Post by EJR Tairne on Jul 10, 2018 3:12:10 GMT
I know I'm pleased with the documentaries on my Marco Polo DVD.
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Post by Jim Exley on Jul 10, 2018 6:00:22 GMT
All I can do is not rule out the possibility of others existing. All previous cries of 'there are no more' have been eventually proven wrong, but the chances of that happening again decrease with every find!
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