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Post by Robert Lia on Jul 7, 2018 20:17:08 GMT
If they had technical problems at the station that would be technically a preemption. Who knows what could have happened, sporting event, political event in either Singapore or Malaysia, lots of things could have caused the preemption.
Unless some one has there own TARDIS and can pop back in time to check it will be one of life's unsolved mysteries
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Post by Jon Preddle on Jul 7, 2018 20:39:10 GMT
From all that's been said about this, those who have researched it are assured that an episode did air and that it was not a pre-emption. Personally, I think the extra billing could very well be a repeat of either Galaxy 4 #4 or an early showing of The Myth Makers #1 repeated again the following week. This could have been down to power cuts, or transmission problems at Television Singapore. All we do know is that between 9 October 1972 and 6 June 1974 (a period of 20 months!) there were 85 billings in the newspapers; if we include 'Mission' then all 85 slots are accounted for. If 'Mission' isn't included, then there is an extra one to account for. As we've noted, this would be because one of the scheduled episodes didn't air as planned. But when this pre-emption occurred is not known, but given that there was a week's break before 'Planet of the Daleks' part 1, maybe that's where the scheduling problem occurred; 'Planet 1' was scheduled to air 18 April, but for some reason didn't - the film didn't turn up in time, perhaps, or it was damaged, and a replacement was required? The following week 'Hammy the Hampster' was billed in the DW time slot - probably because ep 1 still wasn't available, but the week after that, on 2 May, 'Planet of the Daleks 1' finally made it to air. That's the solution I prefer.
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Post by Chris Wilkinson on Jul 8, 2018 1:10:37 GMT
From all that's been said about this, those who have researched it are assured that an episode did air and that it was not a pre-emption. Personally, I think the extra billing could very well be a repeat of either Galaxy 4 #4 or an early showing of The Myth Makers #1 repeated again the following week. This could have been down to power cuts, or transmission problems at Television Singapore. All we do know is that between 9 October 1972 and 6 June 1974 (a period of 20 months!) there were 85 billings in the newspapers; if we include 'Mission' then all 85 slots are accounted for. If 'Mission' isn't included, then there is an extra one to account for. As we've noted, this would be because one of the scheduled episodes didn't air as planned. But when this pre-emption occurred is not known, but given that there was a week's break before 'Planet of the Daleks' part 1, maybe that's where the scheduling problem occurred; 'Planet 1' was scheduled to air 18 April, but for some reason didn't - the film didn't turn up in time, perhaps, or it was damaged, and a replacement was required? The following week 'Hammy the Hampster' was billed in the DW time slot - probably because ep 1 still wasn't available, but the week after that, on 2 May, 'Planet of the Daleks 1' finally made it to air. That's the solution I prefer. Could Planet have been delayed by the censors at all?
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Post by Jon Preddle on Jul 8, 2018 4:18:57 GMT
All we do know is that between 9 October 1972 and 6 June 1974 (a period of 20 months!) there were 85 billings in the newspapers; if we include 'Mission' then all 85 slots are accounted for. If 'Mission' isn't included, then there is an extra one to account for. As we've noted, this would be because one of the scheduled episodes didn't air as planned. But when this pre-emption occurred is not known, but given that there was a week's break before 'Planet of the Daleks' part 1, maybe that's where the scheduling problem occurred; 'Planet 1' was scheduled to air 18 April, but for some reason didn't - the film didn't turn up in time, perhaps, or it was damaged, and a replacement was required? The following week 'Hammy the Hampster' was billed in the DW time slot - probably because ep 1 still wasn't available, but the week after that, on 2 May, 'Planet of the Daleks 1' finally made it to air. That's the solution I prefer. Could Planet have been delayed by the censors at all? Possibly .. but there doesn't appear to have been censorship issues with any other stories. Planet is fairly tame stuff.
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Post by Robert Lia on Jul 9, 2018 22:01:51 GMT
Don't remember any censor clips from Singapore ever turning up, Any one know if Singapore ever rejected any serials that had been cleared by Australia ?
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Post by Jon Preddle on Jul 9, 2018 23:09:26 GMT
Don't remember any censor clips from Singapore ever turning up, Any one know if Singapore ever rejected any serials that had been cleared by Australia ? Yes and no ... sort of ... Three years after showing Time Meddler in December 1966 RTS aired Highlanders in Feb 69-- so it had completely skipped all of season 3, and Tenth Planet and Power of the Daleks. It's not known why it jumped S3; whether you could class this as a 'rejection' is difficult without knowing the reasons why they didn't take up those stories. They might not have been offered the batch in the first place, so didn't have a choice! They did eventually get the ones they 'missed' in 1972, which was merely the tactic of the BBC offering it to them (probably very cheaply!) to make the final minor-CW sale before the rights expired.
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Post by Robert Lia on Jul 10, 2018 3:16:02 GMT
As I figured nothing that did not pass the Singaporean Censors then.
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Post by Jon Preddle on Jul 10, 2018 3:29:00 GMT
As I figured nothing that did not pass the Singaporean Censors then. Dunno. The Singapore censors may have hacked into the films the same way the Australian and NZ censors did. And the BBC junked them after they were returned because they were cut. I guess that until an ex-Singapore film print with bits missing turns up we can never know for sure. They certainly didn't edit anything from Enemy of the World and Web of Fear ... ETA: The NZ censors cut a lot from Web and a couple of minor bits from Enemy; the Australian censors passed both uncut. Clearly the NZ censors were a bit more ... sensitive than the others!
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Post by Robert Lia on Jul 10, 2018 5:31:43 GMT
Makes me wonder if there are censor clips in any of the minor Commonwealth country's (Hong Kong, Singapore, Zambia) waiting to be discovered.?
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Post by Roland Martin on Jul 12, 2018 14:09:32 GMT
National Holidays and such. That's a fair point - I can't see any confirmation online, but 6 Nov 1972 could have been Deepavali (looks as though Diwali was on Sun 5 Nov, so they might have pushed the public holiday to the following day). Although surely that would have affected other weeks too? Singapore has a lot of public holidays, many of which fall on Mondays...
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Post by Jon Preddle on Jul 12, 2018 20:21:45 GMT
Why a holiday on 6 Nov 1972 specifically? That's just the likely date that 'Mission' would have aired in Singapore if it did, as that's between Galaxy 4 and Myth Makers. If Mission didn't air (which is most likely the case) part 1 of Myth Makers aired on 6 Nov 1972.
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Post by Robert Lia on Jul 12, 2018 21:12:42 GMT
Every country celebrates its holidays differently, just take a look at my wife's country the Philippines. They set the record for Holidays and on the ones that fall during Holy Week many radio and TV stations actually shut down for the duration
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Post by Richard Marple on Jul 13, 2018 13:04:01 GMT
IIRC in Australia they normally suspend normal programming over Christmas as everyone's too busy partying on the beach or having barbecues to watch TV.
Anyone remember those surreal Xmas episodes of Neighbours that were normally screened in the UK in the wrong season?
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Post by Robert Lia on Jul 13, 2018 20:40:17 GMT
When I was stationed in the Philippines out local AFRTS affiliate FEN-P was screening the US Soap Operas General Hospital and Guiding Light on a 6 month delay. It was funny watching Christmas episodes seeing shows with blizzard's and snow storms in the middle of summer in the Philippines.
It was nice being able to sit out side and cook on Christmas Day in the Philippines, same with a n all night New Years Eve concert in Singapore in 1995 when I was sweating to death while on Shore Patrol
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Post by Jon Preddle on Jul 13, 2018 21:13:07 GMT
What the stations in NZ did was screen a series during the year, and if there was Christmas-themed episode, they would hold that one over and play it in December. This sometimes messed up the continuity (not that many series in the 70s and 80s had any narrative continuity) but it was an odd experience to see, say, a full series of The Six Million Dollar Man during the first half of the year, then have a single one-off Christmassy episode playing many months later.
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