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Post by williammcgregor on Nov 26, 2018 19:45:15 GMT
Tonight on ITV "Serial Killer" with Piers Morgan Why do the TV channels insist on making programmes about Scum why give them the publicity? what about making programmes about people who deserve to be lauded people who do good in this world!!!!
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Post by timmunton on Nov 27, 2018 16:39:48 GMT
...& Piers Morgan himself I find very disreputable - nowhere remotely near being like a serial killer of course - though I would say he is a strongly negative element in cultural/political life. You'd think they'd use someone with a lot more integrity, especially out of respect for those effected (relatives etc) by the horrific crimes being reported on.
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Post by mattg on Dec 27, 2018 20:33:23 GMT
A couple of things spring irritatingly to mind:
(1): Admittedly more applicable to film than TV (yet now prevalent in both) but CGI'ed bullet impacts always rankles because they look utterly unconvincing. Is it really so laborious, inefficient and/or cost ineffective to set some good ol' exploding squibs up these days?!
(2): Despite a wealth of subsidiary channels now in existence none of the terrestrial networks really seem to exploit their extensive, gem filled back catalogues to fill their respective schedules. It's extremely frustrating when there's quite obviously a wealth of material in existence yet much of it remains gathering dust (home media releases admittedly excepted of course).
Indeed, ITV3 for one is festooned with endless repeats of 'On the Buses' (for example) yet superb if criminally obscure drama like 'Wish Me Luck' (late 80's wartime drama that tells the compelling story of courageous yet flawed female SOE agents operating in France) remain neglected....
^Anyways, those two niggles are just the proverbial tip of a very large iceberg for a serial moaner like me! They are also just my humble opinions as well of course...
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Post by petercheck on Dec 30, 2018 11:03:31 GMT
Forever being told that we now live in more "enlightened" times. It doesn't feel more enlightened, just more repressed.
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Post by RWels on Dec 30, 2018 14:17:30 GMT
Forever being told that we now live in more "enlightened" times. It doesn't feel more enlightened, just more repressed. We've already covered that subject extensively, causing one poster to stamp off in rage with his fingers in his ears when it was pointed out to him that you can still watch "Half Hot" on DVD. You may feel that the neighbour's grass is more green, and perhaps it really is; but I feel that our plants are just as good and our shrubbery is much better.
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Post by mattg on Dec 30, 2018 18:51:31 GMT
Forever being told that we now live in more "enlightened" times. It doesn't feel more enlightened, just more repressed. We've already covered that subject extensively, causing one poster to stamp off in rage with his fingers in his ears when it was pointed out to him that you can still watch "Half Hot" on DVD. You may feel that the neighbour's grass is more green, and perhaps it really is; but I feel that our plants are just as good and our shrubbery is much better. ....you certainly can. For the moment. However it would be a bold person indeed who portended that shows of yesteryear adjudged to fall foul of modern sensibilities will remain unscathed/available indefinitely given the way things are demonstrably going... Indeed, 'Only Fools and Horses' can still easily be purchased too, albeit in highly censored form (and that's discounting the cuts made due to music licensing issues) because of retroactively 'offensive' material. The 'omens' are far from encouraging.
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Post by mattg on Dec 30, 2018 19:03:24 GMT
Forever being told that we now live in more "enlightened" times. It doesn't feel more enlightened, just more repressed. ....and by direct consequence creatively ossified too. Hence why television and cinema are festooned with so many trite, inferior reboots of superior works these days.
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Post by RWels on Dec 30, 2018 21:37:33 GMT
We've already covered that subject extensively, causing one poster to stamp off in rage with his fingers in his ears when it was pointed out to him that you can still watch "Half Hot" on DVD. You may feel that the neighbour's grass is more green, and perhaps it really is; but I feel that our plants are just as good and our shrubbery is much better. ....you certainly can. For the moment. However it would be a bold person indeed who portended that shows of yesteryear adjudged to fall foul of modern sensibilities will remain unscathed/available in years to come given the way things are demonstrably going... Indeed, 'Only Fools and Horses' can easily be purchased too, albeit in highly censored form (and that's discounting the cuts made due to music licensing issues) because of retroactively 'offensive' material. The 'omens' are from encouraging. Yeah, mattg with your 8 posts, that other fellow - the one stamping off, fingers in ears, shouting "LALALA" - had apocalyptic visions of the future too - read back a few pages perhaps. But now that he's left, there's a balcony seat available for the Frog & Bear show, if you know what I mean. You ARE aware, I take it, that "The PC Brigade" is not a real thing? They aren't actually coming to search your house. Racists, on the other hand, have proven to be still very much alive, internationally speaking. Are you aware that this "the past was better" idea is a feeling (i.e. quite separate from facts*) that has existed since forever? Seriously - even the ancient Romans and Greeks suffered from it, more or less hand in hand with rural nostalgia. * Facts such as that you can legally find and watch the movies Birth of a Nation and Triumph of the Will, or even both parts of Mein Kampf? Even your "only fools" seems to be intact on itunes. Oh, the omens are so discouraging indeed!(!) It is harder to find Song of the South, but that is Disney's own decision. And it's not so easy to see any episodes of The B&W Minstrel Show. Well, let me say to that, "Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.".
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Post by Richard Marple on Dec 31, 2018 17:41:48 GMT
....you certainly can. For the moment. However it would be a bold person indeed who portended that shows of yesteryear adjudged to fall foul of modern sensibilities will remain unscathed/available in years to come given the way things are demonstrably going... Indeed, 'Only Fools and Horses' can easily be purchased too, albeit in highly censored form (and that's discounting the cuts made due to music licensing issues) because of retroactively 'offensive' material. The 'omens' are from encouraging. Yeah, mattg with your 8 posts, that other fellow - the one stamping off, fingers in ears, shouting "LALALA" - had apocalyptic visions of the future too - read back a few pages perhaps. But now that he's left, there's a balcony seat available for the Frog & Bear show, if you know what I mean. You ARE aware, I take it, that "The PC Brigade" is not a real thing? They aren't actually coming to search your house. Racists, on the other hand, have proven to be still very much alive, internationally speaking. Are you aware that this "the past was better" idea is a feeling (i.e. quite separate from facts*) that has existed since forever? Seriously - even the ancient Romans and Greeks suffered from it, more or less hand in hand with rural nostalgia. * Facts such as that you can legally find and watch the movies Birth of a Nation and Triumph of the Will, or even both parts of Mein Kampf? Even your "only fools" seems to be intact on itunes. Oh, the omens are so discouraging indeed!(!) It is harder to find Song of the South, but that is Disney's own decision. And it's not so easy to see any episodes of The B&W Minstrel Show. Well, let me say to that, "Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.". Well said, it doesn't help that some people don't bother to look beyond the opinion pages of the papers & not actually check the facts.
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Post by Richard Marple on Dec 31, 2018 17:45:52 GMT
Forever being told that we now live in more "enlightened" times. It doesn't feel more enlightened, just more repressed. ....and by direct consequence creatively ossified too. Hence why television and cinema are festooned with so many trite, inferior reboots of superior works these days. It's more that the powers that be are being lazy by trading in on an existing "brand" rather than coming up with something new, or being not smart enough to take the basic concept of something existing & changing it enough to make it seem new.
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Post by johnmce on Jan 1, 2019 10:44:47 GMT
1) Showing highlights of an entire show at the beginning. I invariably fast forward to the opening credits - I much prefer to watch the programme without it being spoiled at the beginning. I notice that the likes of Hotel Inspector have tried to stop people doing this, by making those credits about 1 second long!
2) Chopping up interviews into tiny chunks and interspersing them with other footage. Not all viewers have the attention span of a fruit fly.
3) All "Talking Heads" programmes, especially when people who weren't even born act as "experts" on a particular subject, when it's obvious they are simply reading their lines off a cue card. The recent Morecambe & Wise in America programme was the perfect example. Does it not occur to the producer/director that people wanted to see the actual US footage rather than numerous so-called comedians dissecting their performance?
4) All nonsensical comments about the 50's being so "grey" - it only appears grey to the morons who says this, because TV footage from that era was in black & white!
5) Adverts for forthcoming programmes appearing in the BBC News. Either show adverts and cancel the license fee, or stop shamelessly plugging your own programmes in the News.
6) The headlines bit at the beginning of the BBC News gets longer and longer. What is the point of including interview footage in the headlines when you are going to repeat it just seconds later! ITV's "Bongs" on News at Ten had the right idea. Each headline should be just a few seconds long, not the entire story.
7) Teletext (or whatever it's current name is). What is the point of having separate section for Home, World, Science, Technology, Sport etc, when these days stories are endlessly repeated across numerous different sections? The almost complete absence of updates to these sections at weekends. And When digital teletext arrived we were promised photos would be included. I've never seen one. And can the BBC not afford a spell checker? The amount of spelling and grammatic errors is the only thing that is increasing. A favourite of mine recently referred to something being "mere heresy"! And stop copying and pasting stories that refer to "see photo below" or quizzes that aren't actually included.
8) John Culshaw - seriously is there any talking head programme ever made that he doesn't pop up on?
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Post by mattg on Jan 2, 2019 11:09:59 GMT
....and by direct consequence creatively ossified too. Hence why television and cinema are festooned with so many trite, inferior reboots of superior works these days. It's more that the powers that be are being lazy by trading in on an existing "brand" rather than coming up with something new, or being not smart enough to take the basic concept of something existing & changing it enough to make it seem new. There are demonstrably other negating factors at play too of course, particularly the creeping politicisation of what should be escapist entertainment - whether it be film or television, not to mention highly speculative appointments in key positions for reasons other than ability/suitability*. Indeed, the 'writing room' team behind Disney's increasingly divisive Star Wars films is a particular, recent 'eye opener' in the annuls of dubious hiring practices. And the less said about why a good portion of Doctor Who's current cadre of 'writers' got commissioned the better.... *Before I'm accused of wild conspiracy and unsubstantiated paranoia remember that said hiring policies are often bragged about on social media/via interviews by those who conceived them!
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Post by Sue Butcher on Jan 2, 2019 11:33:39 GMT
4) All nonsensical comments about the 50's being so "grey" - it only appears grey to the morons who says this, because TV footage from that era was in black & white! I wasn't around in the 50s, but I think of it being slabs of hot pastel colours against a neutral grey background. Things are greyer now that bright colours are considered unsophisticated. Upper Middle living rooms are extremely boring expanses of off-white enlivened by dark grey and beige. Just right for a civilization that's reaching senility!
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Post by mattg on Jan 2, 2019 11:41:19 GMT
....you certainly can. For the moment. However it would be a bold person indeed who portended that shows of yesteryear adjudged to fall foul of modern sensibilities will remain unscathed/available in years to come given the way things are demonstrably going... Indeed, 'Only Fools and Horses' can easily be purchased too, albeit in highly censored form (and that's discounting the cuts made due to music licensing issues) because of retroactively 'offensive' material. The 'omens' are from encouraging. Yeah, mattg with your 8 posts, that other fellow - the one stamping off, fingers in ears, shouting "LALALA" - had apocalyptic visions of the future too - read back a few pages perhaps. But now that he's left, there's a balcony seat available for the Frog & Bear show, if you know what I mean. You ARE aware, I take it, that "The PC Brigade" is not a real thing? They aren't actually coming to search your house. Racists, on the other hand, have proven to be still very much alive, internationally speaking. Are you aware that this "the past was better" idea is a feeling (i.e. quite separate from facts*) that has existed since forever? Seriously - even the ancient Romans and Greeks suffered from it, more or less hand in hand with rural nostalgia. * Facts such as that you can legally find and watch the movies Birth of a Nation and Triumph of the Will, or even both parts of Mein Kampf? Even your "only fools" seems to be intact on itunes. Oh, the omens are so discouraging indeed!(!) It is harder to find Song of the South, but that is Disney's own decision. And it's not so easy to see any episodes of The B&W Minstrel Show. Well, let me say to that, "Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.". .... It would've been constructive if you had actually addressed the salient contentions I raised rather than embarking on a somewhat incoherent and miasmic diatribe comprising of apparently forged quotes (where did "the PC Brigade" and "the past was better" et al come from?!), bizarre slights against my newbie membership status and "facts" that I haven't disputed - yet of which also don't disprove my initial prognostications either! You are clearly spoiling for a fight on this contentious topic but alas I lack the masochistic urge to continue. I therefore sportingly leave the last word to you. Also, if you wish to misdefine my shrewd extrication from this discourse as "stamping off" or similar then that's fine by me! Takes all sorts. Peace.
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Post by RWels on Jan 2, 2019 12:03:26 GMT
Indeed, the 'writing room' team behind Disney's increasingly divisive Star Wars films is a particular, recent 'eye opener' in the annuals of dubious hiring practices. And the less said about why a good portion of Doctor Who's current cadre of 'writers' got commissioned the better.... Ah, you're one of those people who got upset when Star Wars was no longer a 95% white male fest (not counting green characters). Thank you, this basically tells me all I need to know about your outlook on life, one that I do not share. If new Star Wars is $h!t, it obviously must be because of the diversity... It was always so good before...(!) It couldn't just be $h!t because it's being milked to death until the mouse has squeezed the last drop of juice from it. (And just ignore that the first seasons of new Who were some of the best ever while "ticking every box", as the Master put it during one episode.)
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