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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 0:38:17 GMT
Did anybody hear Steve Wright in the Afternoon on Monday at 14:00? Apparently, in the presence of Jon Culshaw and Frank Gardner, he disclosed that more Doctor Who missing episodes had been found in Cyprus and are on their way back now to the BBC - or so I was informed today. Sorry, I missed this broadcast, but if anybody on here heard it, or has access to the broadcast on i-player, can they please shed light on this? If Steve Wright's information is correct, then which episodes can we be expecting to see returned?
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Post by scotttelfer on Jun 13, 2018 0:55:14 GMT
Yes, apparently this guy called Paul Vanezis (never heard of him, you?) found some episodes of The Reign of Terror and you can buy them on DVD now!
This seems to be a half-hearted attempt to report on the Mirror's half-hearted attempt to report on the interview that happened as part of a news round up. Net result: we got told why we should trust the source of the news as the news itself. Well done Auntie, well done!
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Post by lousingh on Jun 13, 2018 0:56:59 GMT
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Post by Mark Vanderlinde-Abernathy on Jun 13, 2018 1:03:37 GMT
Probably a misunderstanding. Paul was cited by a few articles due to his RFS comments. In those articles they mention that he had found episodes in Cyprus during the 80s. This is probably where it came from.
Would be wonderful if there were others, but I doubt it ... and I've no idea how Steve Wright would even know about a return...
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Post by lousingh on Jun 13, 2018 1:15:02 GMT
I got nothing from the broadcast except for some Dalek and Doctor impersonations.
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Post by scotttelfer on Jun 13, 2018 1:16:37 GMT
I got nothing from the broadcast except for some Dalek and Doctor impersonations.
It's not in the interviews (which the podcast covers) it's just read out as a news bulletin part of the way through the show by Steve Wright.
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Post by lousingh on Jun 13, 2018 1:18:57 GMT
I got nothing from the broadcast except for some Dalek and Doctor impersonations.
It's not in the interviews (which the podcast covers) it's just read out as a news bulletin part of the way through the show by Steve Wright.
Oh, my brain shut down after a while. I thought it was in the show itself.
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Post by lousingh on Jun 13, 2018 1:27:21 GMT
I found the tweet where this was mentioned. It sounds like someone read the Mirror and then scrambled their brain, erm, information with stuff about Paul. Paul's disclaimer is in order here.
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Post by Mark Vanderlinde-Abernathy on Jun 13, 2018 1:43:11 GMT
Found it about 45 mins in: "Some of the missing 97 episodes of Doctor Who could be returned to the BBC. Apparently someone's found them in Cyprus." Someone on BBC2 probably read the Daily Mirror ... ... there was this game called "Telephone" when I was a kid. One would whisper a phrase into another's ear, and they'd pass the phrase around until it got to the other side. The phrase never survived the original meaning. ... this is why one shouldn't believe any rumor. We've a prime example of how people skew the truth for their own gain and and example of how people haphazardly mishear/misread the inaccurate information. Believe it when you see it.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jun 13, 2018 13:40:16 GMT
Link to the excerpt in question:
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Post by Michael D. Kimpton on Jun 13, 2018 13:43:06 GMT
Someone here once said they were friends with someone in the RT (can't remember who), and he said quite clearly that they won't tell ANYBODY ANYTHING, even their friends, for fear of jeopardizing future recoveries. So in that case, I'm not gonna believe anything myself. When I see a trailer for a missing episode uploaded by the Who team on Youtube or something, as was done with Enemy and Web, THEN I'll show interest. Incidentally, the trailer for Enemy of the World was genuinely how I learned it had been found, so that's why I presented it as an example. If it's from an official source, then fine. But I don't see The Mirror as a source to be taken seriously right now.
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Post by RWels on Jun 13, 2018 14:05:46 GMT
... there was this game called "Telephone" when I was a kid. One would whisper a phrase into another's ear, and they'd pass the phrase around until it got to the other side. The phrase never survived the original meaning. Recently I'm thinking more of Phil as the Pythia at the oracle of Delphi. He is a prestigious authority but every syllable he says is analysed, dissected, reinterpreted, until finally a hidden meaning is found.
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Post by scotttelfer on Jun 13, 2018 14:06:04 GMT
Someone here once said they were friends with someone in the RT (can't remember who), and he said quite clearly that they won't tell ANYBODY ANYTHING, even their friends, for fear of jeopardizing future recoveries. So in that case, I'm not gonna believe anything myself. When I see a trailer for a missing episode uploaded by the Who team on Youtube or something, as was done with Enemy and Web, THEN I'll show interest. Incidentally, the trailer for Enemy of the World was genuinely how I learned it had been found, so that's why I presented it as an example. If it's from an official source, then fine. But I don't see The Mirror as a source to be taken seriously right now. Thr Mirror wasn't the initial source, they just didn't bother crediting the actual source. The story is real, just blown ridiculously out of proportion by the tabloid press. Films exist, but they aren't in BBC hands nor will they be any time soon.
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Post by John Green on Jun 13, 2018 16:29:39 GMT
Found it about 45 mins in: "Some of the missing 97 episodes of Doctor Who could be returned to the BBC. Apparently someone's found them in Cyprus." Someone on BBC2 probably read the Daily Mirror ... ... there was this game called "Telephone" when I was a kid. One would whisper a phrase into another's ear, and they'd pass the phrase around until it got to the other side. The phrase never survived the original meaning. ... this is why one shouldn't believe any rumor. We've a prime example of how people skew the truth for their own gain and and example of how people haphazardly mishear/misread the inaccurate information. Believe it when you see it. Aren't they saying "Apparently,someone's found some in Cyprus in the past..."?
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Post by Michael D. Kimpton on Jun 13, 2018 17:12:54 GMT
Someone here once said they were friends with someone in the RT (can't remember who), and he said quite clearly that they won't tell ANYBODY ANYTHING, even their friends, for fear of jeopardizing future recoveries. So in that case, I'm not gonna believe anything myself. When I see a trailer for a missing episode uploaded by the Who team on Youtube or something, as was done with Enemy and Web, THEN I'll show interest. Incidentally, the trailer for Enemy of the World was genuinely how I learned it had been found, so that's why I presented it as an example. If it's from an official source, then fine. But I don't see The Mirror as a source to be taken seriously right now. Thr Mirror wasn't the initial source, they just didn't bother crediting the actual source. The story is real, just blown ridiculously out of proportion by the tabloid press. Films exist, but they aren't in BBC hands nor will they be any time soon. While I knew that, I really should have made that bit clear. I knew what Paul said, because I was able to clear it up to an American friend of mine who sent me the Mirror's link. He thought it was genuine after reading their report, not realising that half of what was said was taken out of context.
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