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Post by ethanmuse93 on Apr 27, 2018 18:23:28 GMT
Hi all,
This is my first time posting on here and so I might be asking something that is already common knowledge, but I figured I could ask anyway.
Does anyone know if Evil of the Daleks was ever shown in the US or possibly even Canada?
The reason I ask is because many years ago (probably late 90s but possibly early 2000s), I was having a conversation with a friend of my uncle and aunt while visiting them once in south Mississippi. I think they had told their friend that I was a fan and she was a major fan as well. As we talked she told me about all of the episodes/stories she had recorded off the television on her old Betamax recorder. I asked her what all she had and she couldn’t remember any titles but said she had several tapes filled with Doctor Who. Although she couldn’t remember any names, she described one that stood out in her mind, and it sounded to me like a very accurate description of the final battle in Evil 7. I asked her if she could copy her tapes for me and she said she’d be more than happy to do so. But over the next few times I asked her she said that she couldn’t find the tapes and hoped they hadn’t accidentally been lost in a move or something. Since then she and her husband have gone through a bad divorce and so I’m guessing she no longer even has access to where they could have been stored.
But if what she said is true, then that would likely mean that it was broadcast on PBS in either Mississippi or Louisiana. That might be a good area for people with the ability to thoroughly investigate to do so.
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Post by John Wall on Apr 27, 2018 19:09:19 GMT
The only (known) overseas sales of Evil were Australia, New Zealand, Singapore and Hong Kong.
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Post by ethanmuse93 on Apr 27, 2018 19:11:40 GMT
Okay. Thanks. Too bad.
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Post by RWels on Apr 27, 2018 19:24:23 GMT
Hi all, This is my first time posting on here and so I might be asking something that is already common knowledge, but I figured I could ask anyway. Does anyone know if Evil of the Daleks was ever shown in the US or possibly even Canada? The reason I ask is because many years ago (probably late 90s but possibly early 2000s), I was having a conversation with a friend of my uncle and aunt while visiting them once in south Mississippi. I think they had told their friend that I was a fan and she was a major fan as well. As we talked she told me about all of the episodes/stories she had recorded off the television on her old Betamax recorder. I asked her what all she had and she couldn’t remember any titles but said she had several tapes filled with Doctor Who. Although she couldn’t remember any names, she described one that stood out in her mind, and it sounded to me like a very accurate description of the final battle in Evil 7. I asked her if she could copy her tapes for me and she said she’d be more than happy to do so. But over the next few times I asked her she said that she couldn’t find the tapes and hoped they hadn’t accidentally been lost in a move or something. Since then she and her husband have gone through a bad divorce and so I’m guessing she no longer even has access to where they could have been stored. But if what she said is true, then that would likely mean that it was broadcast on PBS in either Mississippi or Louisiana. That might be a good area for people with the ability to thoroughly investigate to do so. The stations probably no longer have them. It's not really very likely that it would be a story that was never sold to North America if the paperwork is anything to go by. But early recordings might still be worth it for the colour signal for the Pertwees. Betamax arrived earlier than VHS so time-wise those home recorded tapes COULD contain something worthwhile. IF they can be found, IF they are old enough, and IF they're still in decent quality. |
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Post by ethanmuse93 on Apr 27, 2018 23:09:59 GMT
Interesting. I am fairly certain that she will never find whatever tapes she recorded, and even if she did it’s quite possible that she may no longer be interested in sharing them. I haven’t seen her in many years but my uncle told me that she went completely insane and is no longer rational. He and my aunt no longer have anything to do with her, possibly for safety reasons. Not sure. However, having said all of that, if she did record them then she probably is not the only person to do so in that area. It’s mildly tempting to put some classified ads in various papers and see if anything turns up.
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Post by RWels on Apr 28, 2018 0:03:36 GMT
Interesting. I am fairly certain that she will never find whatever tapes she recorded, and even if she did it’s quite possible that she may no longer be interested in sharing them. I haven’t seen her in many years but my uncle told me that she went completely insane and is no longer rational. He and my aunt no longer have anything to do with her, possibly for safety reasons. Not sure. However, having said all of that, if she did record them then she probably is not the only person to do so in that area. It’s mildly tempting to put some classified ads in various papers and see if anything turns up. And her ex-husband?  Other shows might be a possibility. A missing Monty Python sketch was returned in exactly the same way - without the crazy aunt, though (unless she was played by Terry Jones). I've seen a few unexpectedly old home recordings turn up in the US over the past few years. A pilot for a US version of Are You Being Served? and another pilot called Space Force. Both from before 1980, so not something I'd ever expected. Not necessarily missing, but certainly interesting to finally be able to see. Mind you, rumours should not be encouraged, but wasn't there talk at one point of DW episodes getting shown in North America that weren't suppose to be there? I stress that it may have been nothing more than rumours. TV guide listings could possibly (dis)prove what was shown. |
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Post by Mark Vanderlinde-Abernathy on Apr 28, 2018 0:19:40 GMT
But if what she said is true, then that would likely mean that it was broadcast on PBS in either Mississippi or Louisiana. That might be a good area for people with the ability to thoroughly investigate to do so. Did she ever say WHEN she saw it? Mid 70s? Early 70s? 80s? Anyway, here's my two cents of facts: Mississippi Educational Television aired Jon Pertwee in 1985. The episodes we'd be interested in would've not been sold, or likely not in color. Louisiana PBS aired Pertwee in 1992. Source: gallifreybase.com/w/index.php/Mississippi_Educational_TelevisionAs for Missing Episodes and USA, there's little to say. Pertwee was sold in the 70s to the U.S. and Guam, and VHS and BETA recordings are sought for those broadcasts. People living near the Canadian border would've been lucky to see the Canadian broadcast of Marco Polo in 1965. (My best friend's father is one of those people, one of the few Americans to have seen it.) Although TECHNICALLY there was some recording devices at the time of the broadcast, they would've been insanely expensive, insanely new, and probably not the best of quality. There was an interesting rumor reported here a number of years ago of an individual who's father insisted he watched Troughton in Fort Worth in 1970-71. This is understood to be a very unlikely situation, and sadly there was never any evidence found. Source: gallifreybase.com/w/index.php/Category:Dallas |
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Post by Jon Preddle on Apr 28, 2018 1:12:45 GMT
Although she couldn’t remember any names, she described one that stood out in her mind, and it sounded to me like a very accurate description of the final battle in Evil 7. What she probably saw / recorded was the Peter Cushing film "Dr Who and the Daleks'. |
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Post by Scot Ferre on Apr 28, 2018 10:10:34 GMT
Although she couldn’t remember any names, she described one that stood out in her mind, and it sounded to me like a very accurate description of the final battle in Evil 7. What she probably saw / recorded was the Peter Cushing film "Dr Who and the Daleks'. Yes - in the 80s, I remember seeing the Cushing films on TV. That’s probably what they saw. |
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Post by Richard Marple on Apr 28, 2018 12:25:35 GMT
I'm guessing the south western states bordering Mexico could have picked up the Spanish language transmissions.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Apr 28, 2018 12:32:40 GMT
Although she couldn’t remember any names, she described one that stood out in her mind, and it sounded to me like a very accurate description of the final battle in Evil 7. What she probably saw / recorded was the Peter Cushing film "Dr Who and the Daleks'. Surely the Peter Cushing movie would have been viewed in colour?Did she remark that the transmission/recording was in B/W by any chance?I doubt very much that Canadians would still be using monochrome sets even in the 1980s. |
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Post by Ralph Rose on Apr 30, 2018 6:03:45 GMT
Black and white tvs were around for quite awhile as NTSC broadcasts were backward compatible with them. I still used a B/W tv as a backup set until it quit in the late 80's.
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Post by Robert Lia on Apr 30, 2018 8:19:01 GMT
I had a black and white TV in my bedroom until 1983 and I lived in Los Angeles and could pick up with a roof top antenna TV channels as far away as Santa Barbara to the north and Tijuana B.C. Mexico to the south
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Post by ethanmuse93 on May 2, 2018 4:55:43 GMT
Thanks for everyone’s input. I must say that the possibility of it being one of the Peter Cushing movies never crossed my mind at all but makes perfect sense. I don’t know if I ever asked her if it was color or black and white.
And I guess I could get my uncle to talk to her ex and find out if he/they ever found the old tapes.
One problem that occurs to me now is, just suppose it was Evil and she did have it taped off the television on a Betamax tape...what good would it be to the BBC anyway? I’ve never seen a Betamax machine or any recordings but while I’ve heard that it looks better than VHS, it’s not likely that a home recording would be restorable to broadcast or DVD quality. It could be digitized and shared among the fans but that’s it.
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Post by John Wall on May 2, 2018 8:42:30 GMT
Thanks for everyone’s input. I must say that the possibility of it being one of the Peter Cushing movies never crossed my mind at all but makes perfect sense. I don’t know if I ever asked her if it was color or black and white. And I guess I could get my uncle to talk to her ex and find out if he/they ever found the old tapes. One problem that occurs to me now is, just suppose it was Evil and she did have it taped off the television on a Betamax tape...what good would it be to the BBC anyway? I’ve never seen a Betamax machine or any recordings but while I’ve heard that it looks better than VHS, it’s not likely that a home recording would be restorable to broadcast or DVD quality. It could be digitized and shared among the fans but that’s it. If there’s a tape get it to the likes of Paul Vanezis...... |
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