Sofia Fox
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Post by Sofia Fox on Nov 16, 2017 19:20:30 GMT
What do you think will happen for 2018 for Doctor Who missing or existing episodes?
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Post by tom rogers on Nov 16, 2017 22:31:42 GMT
I have hope that we will see one or two this upcoming year. No insight, just hope.
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Sofia Fox
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Post by Sofia Fox on Nov 16, 2017 23:58:42 GMT
I honestly believe at least one will be returned this year...I, too am just hoping
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Post by Chris Wilkinson on Jan 3, 2018 23:09:37 GMT
We should see at least one thing (I hope) in this area this year or soon after as I believe that there's good grounds for a new recovery: The last Doctor Who missing episodes to be recovered were the tapes in Jos, Nigeria back in 2013. Five years have passed now with almost eerie silence, except for a Newsnight broadcast about the recovery of an episode of 'The Avengers' in November 2016 where Tim Beddows (M.D. of Network Distributing) stated "we have a COUPLE of leads ... of a FEW episodes that are known to be missing from the BBC archive" just after showing a clip from the animated 'Power of the Daleks' - perhaps deliberately. He does not, and indeed is not, able to state what episodes/programme these leads are related to, but the implication is that it is plural (more than one episode/programme was being chased at the time). It is known that Nigeria held the missing Doctor Who episodes about two years before they were shown to the public. We're two years on from the aforementioned "couple of leads" remark now, so we should logically see if anything came of these endeavours at some point this year. Remember as well that, as with the previous recovery, episodes were recovered as full serials and not orphan episodes. Plus, it must be stated that many recovery experts believe private collectors hold about half a dozen missing episodes - there is always the possibility of an out-of-the-blue handover. I've been building a Missing Episode Tracker for the past four months based on the most veritable and highest quality information around, and I'm quietly confident about 2018. Even more so, I strongly believe I know which one it would be if it were a Doctor Who recovery... Source: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGxRBOjfZCc
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Post by andrew shutt on Jan 5, 2018 19:33:38 GMT
i can't see anything coming in 2018or 2019 for that matter (best we i think we can hope for is another animation release)
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Post by Sofia Fox on Jan 5, 2018 19:48:51 GMT
I'm changing my answer as my hopes are a bit higher. From one to a pile.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jan 6, 2018 9:09:19 GMT
i can't see anything coming in 2018or 2019 for that matter (best we i think we can hope for is another animation release) My thoughts completely Andrew.Philip Morris won't jeopardise his search by making any announcements until he feels his search is well and truly exhausted as it risks his safety and the subsequent recovery of missing episodes.WOF 3 is the classic example.So no,no announcements-unless of course PM,for whatever reason feels it suitable at such time and for whatever reason.I'd love to have more missing episodes on my shelf but we need to let PM get on with the job in peace and without hysteria.Only then can we be sure that they will see the light of day.
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Post by Chris Wilkinson on Jan 6, 2018 11:49:48 GMT
i can't see anything coming in 2018or 2019 for that matter (best we i think we can hope for is another animation release) My thoughts completely Andrew.Philip Morris won't jeopardise his search by making any announcements until he feels his search is well and truly exhausted as it risks his safety and the subsequent recovery of missing episodes.WOF 3 is the classic example.So no,no announcements-unless of course PM,for whatever reason feels it suitable at such time and for whatever reason.I'd love to have more missing episodes on my shelf but we need to let PM get on with the job in peace and without hysteria.Only then can we be sure that they will see the light of day. I am only quietly confident of a recovery, and I don't take anything for granted, but a professional recovery of Doctor Who will likely result in a whole serial being returned. Any recovery of any programme is a good thing. You must remember that it's not just Philip Morris who will be looking for these episodes, though. He has many other lost television programmes to trace and track down, and I think part of the reason why we don't have 'The Web of Fear' #3 is because the ground effort to recover these episodes is very thin and infrequent. There has never, even to this day, been a comprehensive sweep of all possible missing episode locations (mostly for reasons of cost and practicality) that I fear has destroyed the potential for a number of other finds.
Morris did state that he waited for most of the period between 2011 and 2013 trying to find out where 'WoF' #3 went, but released what he could in time for the 50th anniversary. It's like saying to people at a party to reserve a slice of birthday cake for you, only to find everyone has eaten it all before you get there - everything depends on where you look, and perhaps more crucially, when. If Nigeria had been searched properly in the 1980s, then we could very well have had 'Marco Polo', 'The Reign of Terror' and 'The Crusade' as complete serials today - since based on the evidence, a station in Nigeria in the 1990s was instructed that a cache of Doctor Who films were no longer required (without actually establishing precisely what they were) and were likely destroyed.
The sad thing is that there's now so few avenues left to go down. The serial I now think is most likely to return, and return this year, is 'The Wheel in Space' from in/around Nigeria. The prospects after that, however, are very bleak indeed.
Source: gallifreybase.com/w/index.php/Nigeria#.2AFate_of_the_Prints.3F
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Post by stevehoare61 on Jan 6, 2018 11:58:33 GMT
Id love to think something may appear, as time is running out for so many of us. Ive kind of lost any faith in Phil Morris, I know everyone goes on about jeopardising his safety etc etc but how long does it have to take before some kind of announcement is made?. It doesnt have to be just Doctor Who, theres a whole wealth and spectrum of material out there somewhere, surely after all this time, some of thats been found, and doesnt have the kind of fan base that DOCTOR WHO does, so why cant some of that be made public...just so that we can see that time hasnt been wasted.I hope Im wrong, I expect this same topic again , this time next year.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jan 6, 2018 13:13:04 GMT
Id love to think something may appear, as time is running out for so many of us. Ive kind of lost any faith in Phil Morris, I know everyone goes on about jeopardising his safety etc etc but how long does it have to take before some kind of announcement is made?. It doesnt have to be just Doctor Who, theres a whole wealth and spectrum of material out there somewhere, surely after all this time, some of thats been found, and doesnt have the kind of fan base that DOCTOR WHO does, so why cant some of that be made public...just so that we can see that time hasnt been wasted.I hope Im wrong, I expect this same topic again , this time next year. So what is Planet Mondas saying about the topic unofficially?
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Post by Scot Ferre on Jan 6, 2018 13:19:11 GMT
Id love to think something may appear, as time is running out for so many of us. Ive kind of lost any faith in Phil Morris, I know everyone goes on about jeopardising his safety etc etc but how long does it have to take before some kind of announcement is made?. It doesnt have to be just Doctor Who, theres a whole wealth and spectrum of material out there somewhere, surely after all this time, some of thats been found, and doesnt have the kind of fan base that DOCTOR WHO does, so why cant some of that be made public...just so that we can see that time hasnt been wasted.I hope Im wrong, I expect this same topic again , this time next year. So what is Planet Mondas saying about the topic unofficially? What, about Mr. Morris? Simply put, they have more faith in Kaleidoscope than Mr. Morris, given the disagreement between the two.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jan 6, 2018 15:50:21 GMT
So what is Planet Mondas saying about the topic unofficially? What, about Mr. Morris? Simply put, they have more faith in Kaleidoscope than Mr. Morris, given the disagreement between the two. How and why on Earth did THOSE TWO fall out Scott????Both working towards the same end-is there something we should know about?
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Post by Scot Ferre on Jan 6, 2018 15:58:32 GMT
What, about Mr. Morris? Simply put, they have more faith in Kaleidoscope than Mr. Morris, given the disagreement between the two. How and why on Earth did THOSE TWO fall out Scott????Both working towards the same end-is there something we should know about? I don’t presume to know what’s going on but one can look at the tweets made by Mr. Morris before Christmas.
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Post by Greg H on Jan 6, 2018 19:45:04 GMT
Hmm, predictions for 2018? In keeping with the topic of the thread, I have consulted the I ching and cast the Yarrow stalks. I got Hexagram 40, Hsieh - Deliverance. There are differing translations of this. The Wilhelm translation states that,
"Here the movement goes out of the sphere of danger. The obstacle has been removed, the difficulties are being resolved. Deliverance is not yet achieved; it is just in its beginning, and the hexagram represents its various stages."
And the James Legge translation states that;
"In the state indicated by Hsieh advantage will be found in the south-west. If no further operations be called for, there will be good fortune in coming back to the old conditions. If some operations be called for, there will be good fortune in the early conducting of them."
Interesting, so one interpretation of this is that there is something and "difficulties are being resolved" but it is not there yet, so whether this would be resolved in 2018 or later is not firmly stated. The Legge translation states that "advantage will be found in the south-west". Anyone got any leads in the South West of England or anywhere else South West? "If some operations be called for, there will be good fortune in the early conducting of them", restoration?
Sounds fairly positive as readings go, but not definitively positive. I asked the question 'will missing who be announced in 2018?'.
I might do a tarot spread tomorrow...........
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Post by richardwoods on Jan 6, 2018 21:08:58 GMT
Tee hee
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