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Post by Robert Lia on Oct 2, 2017 21:40:12 GMT
It is sad if some one who had some kind of personal grudge against you "reported" you for restoring "donated material" and asked Crawford's to come down hard on you. I can see why your mad at them but its sad that the archive material became a victim of some ones political agenda.
I might have simply packed up the films and sent them back to Crawford (Postage due /collect) rather than destroy the material out of anger or request from Crawford's.
It sad that politics have got in the way or archiving TV?
Thanks for your time on my question though
Bob
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Post by Martin Dunne on Oct 3, 2017 1:02:42 GMT
Before anyone gets too heated Homicide Squad only dates to circa 1980 and was broadcast; it's not unique. Mind you, the government archives much of the titles mentioned here survive in don't generally release their holdings.
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Post by Archive on Oct 3, 2017 1:56:45 GMT
Not to be confused with the other series "Homicide" This was the unaired pilot and It was unique in the sense it was produced in sydney...these were the camera negatives, all takes and test scenes, screen tests and alike - the clappers just said "squad"
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Post by Robert Lia on Oct 3, 2017 20:49:33 GMT
I have seen clips of it some where on line in the past, perhaps as part of a broader program documenting Crawford's or police shows from Australia. And its not like you walked into Crawford's and lifted the material. If some one donated it to you it had to come from originally some one at Crawford's (or some one who got the material out of there building) or threw it in the dumpster for some one to find and donate to you .
Its the politics of all this that stink to me, I hate the fact that some one with a "motive" was out there causing trouble that could have caused possibly missing material to become permanently missing
Bob
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Post by Chris Keating on Oct 16, 2017 4:31:06 GMT
In response to some of the more recent enquiries...
"Hunter" - At least two episode of "Hunter" exist on VT - although the Nine Network has steadfastly denied it, they gave the game away by using studio scenes from the two episodes in their 35 and 40 Years of Television specials. All other episodes exist, but as horrid kinescopes - I've seen about a dozen; very hacked about around the commercial markers, and would require much restoration to get into a viewable state. As there's little prospect of making that money back, Crawfords won't go there.
"Delta" - National Archives have most of these, on film.
"Catwalk" - NFSA have these, at least two were available for viewing via the National Library.
"Division 4" - The "missing" 90 minute episode was split across two reels of 2" quad. One reel exists, the other doesn't.
"The Unloved" - I have a 16mm episode, and a couple of VHS transfers from elsewhere. Dreadful stuff - entirely studio-based, many non-actors appearing (and giving the expected level of performance). Basically, 1956 TV being made in 1968. Ditto for "Divorce Court".
"Matlock Police" - "A Dangerous Sort Of Man" is the missing episode. Wasn't shown during the 1980's repeat runs, or when the entire series was repeated overnight a decade ago. Neither Crawfords or NFSA have it.
Kines - with reference to James's "..i have seen an interesting practice on some "Australian Kines" where the original film location inserts are spliced into the actual kine...essentially making only the studio based scenes "kines", the whole program including the location scenes were kinescoped, then the film inserts placed back in. This was a great idea, as it of course dramatically improves picture quality", this is really noticeable on the ATN series "You Can't See 'Round Corners". ATN kines are particularly bad, and the exterior scenes would have look hideous after the kine process, to the point of being unwatchable - hence the "dropping in" of the original inserts..
So far as drama stuff goes, the earliest stuff is missing - "House On The Corner" (live drama, ATN-7, 1957-58), "Take That" (live sit-com, Crawfords / HSV-7, 1957-59), "Mrs 'Olmes & Mrs. 'Hentwhistle" (live sit-com, 1959). Other than that, various ABC plays, most of the state-based plays made by NWS-9, QTC-9, etc. 1972 drama series "The Spoiler" is gone (the producer recalled being there when the tapes were wiped), huge chunks of rural serial "Bellbird" (ABC, 1967-77) are gone, and ABC sci-fi series "Andra" is one of the holy grails.
One episode of "The Long Arm" (cop show, ATV-O, 1970) is missing - the most interesting one, too: a Vietnam vet goes nuts and shoots a whole bunch of people. The Broadcasting Control Board ordered cuts to be made (mostly to the gory close ups, particularly of a guy shot through the eye). The rest of the series survives.
Most of "The Link Men" (cop show, TCN-9, 1969-70) exists - of the 13 episodes (12 aired, one unaired pilot), I've seen seven.
But really, most other stuff survives. A lot of the ABC stuff that people tout as "lost" is actually in the National Archives, and people just don't know to look there...
As to "The Squad" - the completed "Homicide Squad" telemovie was repeated overnight in the late 1980's (I have an off-air copy). James showed me some clips from "The Squad", and I couldn't identify them conclusively as being from the version that aired - may have been out-takes, deleted scenes, etc.
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