Richard Develyn
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Living in hope that more missing episodes will come back to us.
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Post by Richard Develyn on Jan 31, 2017 19:31:46 GMT
Just think of all the copyright lawsuits that are going to be going their way!
Richard
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Post by stephenwit1 on Jan 31, 2017 19:51:01 GMT
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Post by richardwoods on Jan 31, 2017 19:57:59 GMT
Ere, it's just a load of coloured dots, innit............
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Post by jayglover on Jan 31, 2017 20:39:55 GMT
Can someone explain this to me in a easy understandable way
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Post by stephenwit1 on Jan 31, 2017 21:43:03 GMT
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Post by scotttelfer on Jan 31, 2017 21:54:07 GMT
Can someone explain this to me in a easy understandable way A TV screen is made up of a bunch of dots of varying colours. You get a picture if you put through a certain pattern, therefore if you take a list of every single possible pattern (which this site does) the correct images have to be in there somewhere. The problem as you may expect is that with thousands of dots per image even limiting it to just grey scale for each dot the number of combinations is utterly ridiculous. You'd be billions of years trying to find the correct pictures, in fact you'd be more likely to construct a brand new episode than recreate an already existing one, or get a new set of images that appear to fit into the audio but are totally wrong.
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Post by Dylan Heath on Jan 31, 2017 22:02:45 GMT
I think I understand what you mean and it's something I have theorised for a while. Technology is getting exponentially better as days go by, for The War Machines there was a couple of seconds of frame missing in part 4 so for the DVD release they got a computer to predict what the frames would have been like and it looks absolutely indistinguishable from the actual thing. With that in mind say 20 to 40 years in the future, what if computers are so advanced that based on the script, telesnaps and other bits of material relating to the episode, would a computer be able to if a little inaccurately predict what each frame of missing episodes would have looked like? I know it's a bit out there but so was something like the Internet 20 years before it was invented, we know it's possible for computers to reach this kind of insane level of logical prediction if it was powerful enough so if I'm right we may have a viable alternative to original copies of the episodes even if the technology takes a few decades to develop.
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Post by stephenwit1 on Jan 31, 2017 22:19:12 GMT
Imagine recreating episodes like this is mindblowing.
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Post by ianphillips on Feb 1, 2017 0:33:29 GMT
I think I understand what you mean and it's something I have theorised for a while. Technology is getting exponentially better as days go by, for The War Machines there was a couple of seconds of frame missing in part 4 so for the DVD release they got a computer to predict what the frames would have been like and it looks absolutely indistinguishable from the actual thing. With that in mind say 20 to 40 years in the future, what if computers are so advanced that based on the script, telesnaps and other bits of material relating to the episode, would a computer be able to if a little inaccurately predict what each frame of missing episodes would have looked like? I know it's a bit out there but so was something like the Internet 20 years before it was invented, we know it's possible for computers to reach this kind of insane level of logical prediction if it was powerful enough so if I'm right we may have a viable alternative to original copies of the episodes even if the technology takes a few decades to develop. Also consider that there are telesnaps for most missing episodes, so assuming technology such as that were to be developed, that would make it that much easier and more accurate.
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Post by stevehoare61 on Feb 1, 2017 7:26:47 GMT
Jesus, and I thought my headache was bad before reading this.....someone pass the moggidons.
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Post by richardwoods on Feb 1, 2017 18:52:42 GMT
Can someone explain this to me in a easy understandable way No
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Post by John W King on Feb 1, 2017 22:35:25 GMT
So, if I understand this correctly :- 1.A TV screen contains a finite number of pixels. 2.Theoretically there are a huge but still finite combination of pixels. 3.Most of the combinations are random and produce meaningless images to the human brain. 4.However the theory suggests that as well as random some combinations will form meaningful images. 5.The hope is that of those meaningful images should be every frame of each Dr Who episode. (and Crossroads, test card, news etc) 6.The problem is how to extract the images you want. 7. One solution is to use Telesnaps as filters to find similar images.
8. Another solution is to actually find any missing episodes. 9. The theory is just that. It is unlikely to become practical in our life times. I suggest you contemplate, dream and then forget this. File under:- Fun but bonkers
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Kev Hunter
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The only difference between a rut and a groove is the depth
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Post by Kev Hunter on Feb 1, 2017 23:09:28 GMT
Why does this thread remind me of this?
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Post by Peter Ledwith on Feb 4, 2017 11:38:03 GMT
All we have to do now is locate the Tower of Babel which is in Babylon ... The legendary tower was supposed to be so high that it reached Heaven and somehow that seems appropriate because if it does hold all missing episodes then it would truly be our TV heaven! That's easy....The foundation is there. It's a known archeological site. Missing eisodes are a little harder to find.
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Post by Ralph Rose on Feb 5, 2017 6:34:25 GMT
Reminds me of Monkeys typing Shakespeare. Eventually they will do it, but it could take a million years. Same theory. Although I said similar with chroma dot recovery too...
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