Owen Conway
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Post by Owen Conway on Jan 9, 2017 21:43:43 GMT
I think it's rather a shame colour television was developed. Really? I can't say I've heard this before?! Fair enough. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate it's existence and often enjoy programs in colour...but equally, I really enjoy B&W television like Doctor Who. I'm sort of...in the middle. Perhaps saying it's a shame it was developed is a sweeping statement of sorts.
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Post by Richard Marple on Jan 9, 2017 22:13:09 GMT
The use of TV medium can be interesting.
A lot programmes made in the late 1960s early 1970s seemed to go out their way to be as colourful as possible, even if most viewer would have been seeing it in B&W still.
The Glam Rock era of Top Of The Pops is a good example, & seeing clips that only survive as telerecordings can be a little odd, especially when there are a lot of visual effects.
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Post by Barry Hodge on Jan 9, 2017 22:16:17 GMT
I'm sure I've heard it somewhere that Fanny Craddock's famously garish creations were purposely created for colour TV display, and as you say, Glam was a perfect fit for the new(ish) medium.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jan 9, 2017 22:16:52 GMT
My view is that the animation shouldn't have been re-created in colour but perhaps the B/W version should have been re-tweaked.I think more emphasis should have been placed on the correct monochrome grading of the release. The animation and it's backgrounds are too bright in my opinion which gives it a rather flat feel. Also, some members have mentioned some dialogue doesn't synch with the animation. As the animation was rushed, it would have made sense to have released a B/W SE so ironing out the problems.And this combination would have been perfect as a blu ray.
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Post by lousingh on Jan 9, 2017 23:06:42 GMT
The use of TV medium can be interesting. A lot programmes made in the late 1960s early 1970s seemed to go out their way to be as colourful as possible, even if most viewer would have been seeing it in B&W still. The Glam Rock era of Top Of The Pops is a good example, & seeing clips that only survive as telerecordings can be a little odd, especially when there are a lot of visual effects. Based on what I know and have read, you are spot on, Richard. According to some people I know associated with Star Trek, they made the sets, props, and clothes very colourful in part because RCA (who owned NBC) gave them extra money to do so. (There are those who think that the only reason they allowed Star Trek to stay on because it showed off different colour schemes on different planets.) Along with that, the TV people were well-aware that most people still had B&W sets, so they would choose colours that would be striking on a colour set but look OK on a B&W set.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jan 9, 2017 23:16:32 GMT
The use of TV medium can be interesting. A lot programmes made in the late 1960s early 1970s seemed to go out their way to be as colourful as possible, even if most viewer would have been seeing it in B&W still. The Glam Rock era of Top Of The Pops is a good example, & seeing clips that only survive as telerecordings can be a little odd, especially when there are a lot of visual effects. Based on what I know and have read, you are spot on, Richard. According to some people I know associated with Star Trek, they made the sets, props, and clothes very colourful in part because RCA (who owned NBC) gave them extra money to do so. (There are those who think that the only reason they allowed Star Trek to stay on because it showed off different colour schemes on different planets.) Along with that, the TV people were well-aware that most people still had B&W sets, so they would choose colours that would be striking on a colour set but look OK on a B&W set. Actually Lou,Star Trek was made as colourful as it was because the television companies and their affiliates wanted to sell more colour TV sets,and Star Trek provided the perfect medium. This was probably why the original(and best)series went on for so long.
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Post by Robert Lia on Jan 10, 2017 1:18:47 GMT
Two other 1960's series that were very colorful were Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea and Lost in Space.
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Post by John Wall on Jan 10, 2017 8:56:58 GMT
Two other 1960's series that were very colorful were Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea and Lost in Space. Both started in black and white though.
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Post by Richard Marple on Jan 10, 2017 13:41:54 GMT
Quite a few American shows in the 1960s started in black & white then switched to colour once they had started to pull in an audience.
The George Reeves Superman series was a very early one to do this, long before they were regular colour broadcasts.
I can remember watching something about the Bay City Rollers where one of the fans being interviewed saying she always tried to go round to her friend's house when Shang A Lang was on as they had a colour TV.
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Post by Robert Lia on Jan 10, 2017 22:31:40 GMT
The series that started out in black and white and switched to color was repeated again in the late 90's when shows started to switch from full screen to widescreen.
For example you have a few seasons of The X Files that re 4:3 while the later ones are 16:9
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Post by Richard Marple on Jan 11, 2017 13:21:21 GMT
I'm working my way through the first season of Ally McBeal at the moment & was a little surprised it was still 4:3 in late 1997.
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Post by Nicholas Fitzpatrick on Jan 11, 2017 14:39:49 GMT
There was very little HDTV in the USA in the late 1990s. Unlike the UK, they never broadcast 16:9 in anything other than HD.
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Post by finleywade on Jan 11, 2017 15:09:12 GMT
I don't think we should have more colorized animations. It adds an element of authenticity if it's in black and white (even closer to the original)
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Post by andyeves on Jan 11, 2017 16:13:47 GMT
I think that colourisation would be good from the perspective of getting younger viewers to take an interest.
I'm aware that fans have produced colourised clips of B/W episodes but I've never watched them as I have no interest in seeing these in colour. I'd rather efforts be concentrated on producing a decent version of Dinosaurs E1.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jan 11, 2017 16:33:24 GMT
Oh Lord...the title of this thread.No we shouldn't allow any more colourized animations after Brexit.
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