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Post by Jeff Lewis on Sept 18, 2016 19:44:19 GMT
Seem to recall their couple of brothers who were used as light relieve. They were more yokel than newcomers. I was too young to realise they had been written out but I do know they both back for the final episode.
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Post by stevej on Sept 18, 2016 20:51:05 GMT
This is a fascinating thread for me, as although I was just too young to have seen the series, my dad even now comes out with 'He/she used to be in The Newcomers!'(or equally 'Compact') when watching various programmes. For those of us that don't know, what was the actual premise of the series?
I love the idea of 'Give Me Your Word' - some of those editions look like they must have been terrific fun. Such a shame (yet again) that we'll never know.
Steve
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Post by John W King on Sept 21, 2016 12:57:05 GMT
I remember regularly watching the Newcomers but little about it. Was it on Tuesday and Thursday on BBC 1 at 7.00 - 7.30 in the evening? The basic initial premise, I think was that the Cooper family, Maggie Fitzsimmon and Alan Browning (playing husband Ellis) move to the rural village of Angleton. Was he appointed as a manager with a new company? Did they move to a new estate in Angleton. Gran, Gladys Henson had to be encouraged to move with them as well as two children? I remember the editor was Gerald Brooks. I remember Campbell Singer (he'd not long been in Doctor Who. The only episode I can recall was Ellis Cooper having a heart attack roughly after the programme had been on for a year. At the end of the episode Ellis lay on a hospital bed. The camera zoomed in onto the cardiographer showing his heart beat. It stopped. Flattened.... Roll end titles. Next episode lots of tears from wife, Maggie Fitzgibbon. I think soon after she decided to leave Angleton and return to London. A new family moved in. That's my recollection on 430 episodes. I don't recall any merchandise or novelisation. Rather sad really.
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Post by Ian Wegg on Sept 22, 2016 5:02:35 GMT
I don't recall any merchandise or novelisation. You've sparked another memory for me. In the programme the local newspaper was celebrating an anniversary with a booklet about the history of the town. The BBC were also going to publish the booklet for general sale, I remember I was quite looking forward to buying one. Unfortunately the publication was caught up in an industrial dispute with the printers and eventually it was announced that it was "delayed indefinitely". A shame as it would have been an unusual piece of merchandise. The booklet was seen on screen a number of times and I'm guessing the content was produced. Possibly there is a copy somewhere in the BBC Written Archives, I'd love to see it. ~iw
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Post by John W King on Sept 22, 2016 11:51:42 GMT
The local newspaper was the Anglepoise Advertiser. Another storyline involved the editor recruiting a new young journalist. Was it Jeremy Bulloch? I forgot to mention that the Coopers moved from London to Angleton. Now here's an idea. How about a DVD including all surviving episodes of early BBC soaps - the Newcomers, Compact, the Groves etc. It could be an entertaining DVD. Might not sell bucket loads but I'm sure it could be a steady seller.
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Post by John Green on Sept 22, 2016 13:39:55 GMT
The local newspaper was the Anglepoise Advertiser. An entire newspaper to advertise lamps...
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Post by paul carney on Sept 22, 2016 19:17:42 GMT
I remember regularly watching the Newcomers but little about it. Was it on Tuesday and Thursday on BBC 1 at 7.00 - 7.30 in the evening? The basic initial premise, I think was that the Cooper family, Maggie Fitzsimmon and Alan Browning (playing husband Ellis) move to the rural village of Angleton. Was he appointed as a manager with a new company? Did they move to a new estate in Angleton. Gran, Gladys Henson had to be encouraged to move with them as well as two children? I remember the editor was Gerald Brooks. I remember Campbell Singer (he'd not long been in Doctor Who. The only episode I can recall was Ellis Cooper having a heart attack roughly after the programme had been on for a year. At the end of the episode Ellis lay on a hospital bed. The camera zoomed in onto the cardiographer showing his heart beat. It stopped. Flattened.... Roll end titles. Next episode lots of tears from wife, Maggie Fitzgibbon. I think soon after she decided to leave Angleton and return to London. A new family moved in. That's my recollection on 430 episodes. I don't recall any merchandise or novelisation. Rather sad really. This just about sums up my memories of The Newcomers. It was on twice a week but had few ,if any ,truly memorable story lines. It is interesting that a lot of the cast members are recalled as they were all well known at the time and could have done a lot more with better material. It was the mid 60s so we only had 2 or 3 channels to watch ,so there was an element of the captive audience about this. The Beeb famously struggled for decades to produce a soap to match Corrie in the ratings.I don't really remember Compact, The Newcomers was too bland ,United too blokey and lets just not talk about Triangle!
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Post by Richard Marple on Sept 22, 2016 20:40:00 GMT
It's intesting the BBC had so much trouble with soaps.
Not a 100% soap but important was Angels, which indirectly influenced both EastEnders & Casualty.
Even ITV seemed to be hit & miss with soaps, Albion Market was one which missed the mark in spite of being produced by a successful Coronation Street producer.
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Post by John Green on Sept 22, 2016 21:00:34 GMT
It's intesting the BBC had so much trouble with soaps. Not a 100% soap but important was Angels, which indirectly influenced both EastEnders & Casualty. Even ITV seemed to be hit & miss with soaps, Albion Market was one which missed the mark in spite of being produced by a successful Coronation Street producer. Don't mention Angels! The DVD releases were cancelled after series 2...
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Post by John W King on Sept 23, 2016 20:43:57 GMT
I should have said Angleton Advertiser. But you knew that. Predictive text. Pah. Yes Pah.
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Post by John Green on Sept 23, 2016 21:40:05 GMT
I should have said Angleton Advertiser. But you knew that. Predictive text. Pah. Yes Pah. I actually didn't John.I thought it was a great name! Seriously,I thought that the lamps were named after something...
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Post by Ian Wegg on Sept 24, 2016 6:52:54 GMT
I should have said Angleton Advertiser. But you knew that. Predictive text. Pah. Yes Pah. I actually didn't John.I thought it was a great name! Seriously,I thought that the lamps were named after something... I didn't either! That explains why Google didn't turn up anything at all for Anglepoise Advertiser. BBC Genome turns up this for 18th Sept 1969: " The 50th anniversary edition of the Angleton Advertiser is eagerly anticipated" which half confirms my recollection. Possibly editions of Radio Times around then will contain promotions for the (subsequently aborted) tie-in publication. ~iw
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Post by brianfretwell on Oct 2, 2016 9:42:24 GMT
I remember the father of the character played by Wendy Richard starting to go bald. He sent off to a firm advertising wiht the slogan "loosing your hair? Send for our product to keep it in" and getting a small box for his money.
As for Jenny Agutter's appearances: Kirsty Kerr appeared in the series back from boarding school in the summer holidays for 5 - 6 weeks played by Jenny. (I felt that she wouldn't be back, thinking b that Jenny was too good for this show). Kirsty seemed to like being in the town so she ran away from school as she felt lonely there, re-appearing for one episode. She was persuaded by Maggie Fitzgibbon's character that she could be on her own but not be lonely away from the family one of her daughters (Judy Geeson?) being a nurse in New Zealand. As I had liked Jenny in the previous episodes I actually set up a tape recorder and recorded this sequence, though a bit got over-recorded later. I have digitised it and given a copy to Kaleidoscope. I was right about Jenny though, when the character came back she was played by Maggie Don.
My other memories are just overall impressions of characters, not stories.
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Post by paul carney on Nov 14, 2016 22:27:55 GMT
youtu.be/NnRSyyE-ESUAn episode of The Newcomers has shown up on You Tube ,episode 166 tx 05/05/1967. It seems to be sourced from the original VT. Wikipedia states that only 3 episodes are in the BBC archive Episode 59 –Original transmission 26 April 1966. Episode 172 – Original transmission 26 May 1967. Episode 222 – Original transmission 7 December 1967 So this would be an extra find?
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Post by John Green on Nov 14, 2016 22:45:48 GMT
Brilliant.
And a known Lance Percival Show.
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