I'm going to go with one of the popular ones here and say Evil of the Daleks, if only for the fact that from what exists of episode two it looks incredible. I later bought the official soundtrack CD, which sounded incredible, but I missed the visual material you get from a fuller recon.
Earlier this year I finally got down to the loose cannon recon and, after having watched it I can truthfully say Evil is now my most-wanted story (which had previously been Web of Fear).
I'd like to see the mastery of black and white film that is all too clear in moody 60's who, which is my favourite era of the show - featuring iconic design in the Dalek city, the various traps, and the victorian house - as well as the stunning Dalek Emperor, and what little remain of the telesnaps show us this was an incredibly well shot and directed story with conviction from the cast.
If I had to choose to see one episode back? I'd choose 7. But 6 would be followed soon after..then the mastery of the parts that come before too. I'm obsessed with inspiration from this story. I'd love to see how certain aspects of it looked on screen - the remaining tele snaps are gorgeous.
I voted for 'The Dalek's Masterplan' (and by proxy, I suppose, 'Mission to the Unknown' as I would hate to see the prequel unseen) as I would love to see more of Mavic Chen played by the late, great Kevin Stoney. His appearances in the surviving episodes are a joy and he bounces off Hartnell superbly. Failing that, Web 3; just so as we can complete the story.
Hypothesis: It is unlikely that any more missing Doctor Who will turn up after 40-50 years. There are, however, those who refute this claim and continually prove it wrong. Long may they continue!
I'm going to go with one of the popular ones here and say Evil of the Daleks, if only for the fact that from what exists of episode two it looks incredible. I later bought the official soundtrack CD, which sounded incredible, but I missed the visual material you get from a fuller recon.
Earlier this year I finally got down to the loose cannon recon and, after having watched it I can truthfully say Evil is now my most-wanted story (which had previously been Web of Fear).
I'd like to see the mastery of black and white film that is all too clear in moody 60's who, which is my favourite era of the show - featuring iconic design in the Dalek city, the various traps, and the victorian house - as well as the stunning Dalek Emperor, and what little remain of the telesnaps show us this was an incredibly well shot and directed story with conviction from the cast.
If I had to choose to see one episode back? I'd choose 7. But 6 would be followed soon after..then the mastery of the parts that come before too. I'm obsessed with inspiration from this story. I'd love to see how certain aspects of it looked on screen - the remaining tele snaps are gorgeous.
It's odd and inexplicable, but from the surviving episode...the Daleks just seem to work in a Victorian setting, don't they? They actually fit right in. I have no idea why.
The Management regrets that due to necessary cuts, the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off.
I think you are pointing out why the (classic) Daleks are a better villain than any other baddy from any Science Fiction / Science Fantasy / Fantasy media series or movies. There's something about them that makes you just believe them in basically any setting - no matter how incongruous or bizarre they may appear to be. (For instance, I love them in Ancient Egypt.)
IMHO, their simple design of a pepper pot-like shape, front view that is a grotesque parody of a human face, and and lack of any truly recognisable organic feature helps me and probably many others suspend my disbelief that there are people inside them actually operating them. Also, their intelligence, hubris, and obsessions make them almost irresistible to follow within a story.
The other thing that works for Daleks is that we all will put up with a run-of-the-mill cliche-fest Dalek story because even in their weak stories (Resurrection of the Daleks and Daleks in Manhattan / Evolution of the Daleks leap to mind), their behaviour can still be interesting to watch. But when you turn the formulae on their heads (e.g., Daleks being servants to humans? They are genuinely afraid of the Doctor?), played against (e.g., Davros's reason for not telling people about their nutrients being Dalekian Soylent Green; the Daleks saying their weapons on Exxilon are only "moderately effective."), or played up ("Now, you will tell me the reason for every Dalek defeat."), those parts of the stories become a joy to watch. So unless the writer cranks out something horrible, you at least will be entertained by them.
I think you are pointing out why the (classic) Daleks are a better villain than any other baddy from any Science Fiction / Science Fantasy / Fantasy media series or movies. There's something about them that makes you just believe them in basically any setting - no matter how incongruous or bizarre they may appear to be. (For instance, I love them in Ancient Egypt.)
IMHO, their simple design of a pepper pot-like shape, front view that is a grotesque parody of a human face, and and lack of any truly recognisable organic feature helps me and probably many others suspend my disbelief that there are people inside them actually operating them. Also, their intelligence, hubris, and obsessions make them almost irresistible to follow within a story.
The other thing that works for Daleks is that we all will put up with a run-of-the-mill cliche-fest Dalek story because even in their weak stories (Resurrection of the Daleks and Daleks in Manhattan / Evolution of the Daleks leap to mind), their behaviour can still be interesting to watch. But when you turn the formulae on their heads (e.g., Daleks being servants to humans? They are genuinely afraid of the Doctor?), played against (e.g., Davros's reason for not telling people about their nutrients being Dalekian Soylent Green; the Daleks saying their weapons on Exxilon are only "moderately effective."), or played up ("Now, you will tell me the reason for every Dalek defeat."), those parts of the stories become a joy to watch. So unless the writer cranks out something horrible, you at least will be entertained by them.
Great post. In terms of Daleks, for me, they were at their sinister, powerful, scheming best in the 60's, not to mention I loved their designs and the designs of their cities and control rooms. They were operated beautifully too (especially in their first story - amazing) and in future stories were never quite operated the same (especially after Evil..see 'Day' for an example of less effective voices too). In addition, the atmosphere of their 60's stories was fabulous and we all know how good classic who was at period drama, so combining the two most effectively makes for an exciting story.
Apart from Evil, my second would be Masterplan, then Power, then Marco Polo/Fury.
If you can get a feel for the complete story (i.e. Ice Warriors, Tenth Planet, Crusade etc) ESPECIALLY if it has seen a DVD release, I'm not as concerned about it being found as I am for the stories above.
You & me both Mate, all down to cost sadly. Still would have liked to buy part animated Wheel and Faceless Ones
That omni-rumor concerning 100 found episodes on the TV news is probably what blew everything out of the water. When possible large finds were being mentioned in 2013, 2/e was then taken out of the picture. If we still had 2/e involved, at least we would have received animated versions of The Underwater Menace and The Crusade since they mentioned that 2 animated episodes per story were affordable. Now that the omni-rumor has turned into an omni-disaster, we don't have the missing episodes or the animations. If this could have been handled any worse, I wouldn't believe that could be possible.
You & me both Mate, all down to cost sadly. Still would have liked to buy part animated Wheel and Faceless Ones
That omni-rumor concerning 100 found episodes on the TV news is probably what blew everything out of the water. When possible large finds were being mentioned in 2013, 2/e was then taken out of the picture. If we still had 2/e involved, at least we would have received animated versions of The Underwater Menace and The Crusade since they mentioned that 2 animated episodes per story were affordable. Now that the omni-rumor has turned into an omni-disaster, we don't have the missing episodes or the animations. If this could have been handled any worse, I wouldn't believe that could be possible.
And add to that the loss of Web 3. You are absolutely right sadly.
I don't think the animations ever really paid for themselves. Sadly, the black and white stories were only ever going to appeal to a small audience, and the animations weren't cheap to make.
The Management regrets that due to necessary cuts, the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off.
I think you are pointing out why the (classic) Daleks are a better villain than any other baddy from any Science Fiction / Science Fantasy / Fantasy media series or movies. There's something about them that makes you just believe them in basically any setting - no matter how incongruous or bizarre they may appear to be. (For instance, I love them in Ancient Egypt.)
IMHO, their simple design of a pepper pot-like shape, front view that is a grotesque parody of a human face, and and lack of any truly recognisable organic feature helps me and probably many others suspend my disbelief that there are people inside them actually operating them. Also, their intelligence, hubris, and obsessions make them almost irresistible to follow within a story.
The other thing that works for Daleks is that we all will put up with a run-of-the-mill cliche-fest Dalek story because even in their weak stories (Resurrection of the Daleks and Daleks in Manhattan / Evolution of the Daleks leap to mind), their behaviour can still be interesting to watch. But when you turn the formulae on their heads (e.g., Daleks being servants to humans? They are genuinely afraid of the Doctor?), played against (e.g., Davros's reason for not telling people about their nutrients being Dalekian Soylent Green; the Daleks saying their weapons on Exxilon are only "moderately effective."), or played up ("Now, you will tell me the reason for every Dalek defeat."), those parts of the stories become a joy to watch. So unless the writer cranks out something horrible, you at least will be entertained by them.
What a fantastic post!!! I'm so pleased that there are people out there who love the Daleks as much as I do. And I completely agree with you about the Daleks being better then any baddy from sci-fi/fantasy!
They are completely timeless and will always be my favourite Doctor Who monster!
Also, as this is likely my last post before Christmas, I would just like to wish everyone on the forum a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!
as I look at this poll, power dwarfs every other story in demand, yet its the story yearning most for a recon upgrade. Im hoping this is a sign to the good folks at LC (or any other recon group) to encourage a release here.
as I look at this poll, power dwarfs every other story in demand, yet its the story yearning most for a recon upgrade. Im hoping this is a sign to the good folks at LC (or any other recon group) to encourage a release here.
a;sp merru christmas to all
Didn't the recon groups announce they were shutting down when the Omni-rumor was the talk of the town in 2013? I thought they were under the impression that most of the lost episodes were coming back and that their services were no longer required.
Hypothesis: It is unlikely that any more missing Doctor Who will turn up after 40-50 years. There are, however, those who refute this claim and continually prove it wrong. Long may they continue!