Saturday Scene

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I do not know if there has ever been a thread about Saturday Scene, if there has, perhaps some-one can put on that previous link please..

www.lostshows.com/default.aspx?search=saturday+scene

says at the bottom of page..out of an original total of 189 episodes, 176 are Missing and a further one is incomplete..

here are 2 clips from 2 ME, first is Series 2 Episode 104 3/9/77 which was the Final Episode of Saturday Scene...spot Marc Bolan, Linda Lewis, Roger Taylor,
Paul Nicholas, Sally James

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVsLDxVya-I

the second is from August 1974, all episodes for August, ie, 3rd Episode 40, 10th Episode 41, 17th Episode 42, 24th Episode 43, 31st Episode 44 are ME..can
anyone find out which Episode in August the following clip is from please

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ccSu6E389I

these are probably not the only ones on there, just spotted these 2 to get things rolling..

Can anyone say if this was a Saturday morning/lunchtime/late afternoon show and the usual length of the episode/programme please..

[John Green]

May 24, 2015 11:32:42 GMT @simonmoreby said:

I do not know if there has ever been a thread about Saturday Scene, if there has, perhaps some-one can put on that previous link please..

Aye.A few.A few. missingepisodes.proboards.com/search/results?where_thread_title=saturday+scene&when_days=9999&who_only_made_by=0&display_as=0

(All of which helps me avoid commentating on whether these are new finds.Pop is out of my league.)

[Ray Langstone (was saintsray)]

May 24, 2015 11:32:42 GMT @simonmoreby said:

I do not know if there has ever been a thread about Saturday Scene, if there has, perhaps some-one can put on that previous link please..

www.lostshows.com/default.aspx?search=saturday+scene

says at the bottom of page..out of an original total of 189 episodes, 176 are Missing and a further one is incomplete..

here are 2 clips from 2 ME, first is Series 2 Episode 104 3/9/77 which was the Final Episode of Saturday Scene...spot Marc Bolan, Linda Lewis, Roger Taylor,
Paul Nicholas, Sally James

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVsLDxVya-I

the second is from August 1974, all episodes for August, ie, 3rd Episode 40, 10th Episode 41, 17th Episode 42, 24th Episode 43, 31st Episode 44 are ME..can
anyone find out which Episode in August the following clip is from please

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ccSu6E389I

these are probably not the only ones on there, just spotted these 2 to get things rolling..

Can anyone say if this was a Saturday morning/lunchtime/late afternoon show and the usual length of the episode/programme please..

Simon, they are two old finds of mine....

The first one:- missingepisodes.proboards.com/thread/5699/bolan-sally-james-paul-nicholas (24/12/2010) (this was actually posted by Paul Nicholas)

and

the second one:- missingepisodes.proboards.com/thread/5307/saturday-scene-find-another (29/06/2010)

I look for Saturday Scene regularly; one of the first shows I recall watching!

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Now it's my turn to be confused..for of 176 ME for Saturday Scene, 16 of these are listed at the bfi with holdings on VHS and also on other formats as indicated
below..most of these 16 seem to be in a block of ME starting at ME 48 28/9/74 - ME 60 21/12/74 along with ME 62 4/1/75, ME 77 19/4/75 and ME 78 26/4/75..
the confusing thing is that these 16 which come up under Saturday Scene have London Bridge as the original title..

www.lostshows.com/default.aspx?search=saturday+scene

www.lostshows.com/default.aspx?search=london+bridge

this raises a number of interesting questions..

1. thanks to John Green above, we know there have been several previous threads about Saturday Scene, did any of these indicate that S.S. and L.B are one
and the same Show, or that one was part of the other, or that one was a spin-off of the other?
2. the link above for L.B. says that there were 33 episodes of L.B. 4 of which are still ME, were/are these 33 of L.B. also episodes of S.S. still listed as ME under
S.S. and the 4 ME of L.B. do they tie up with dates for ME under S.S.?
3. Does the cast and crew for S.S. mirror the same for L.B.?
4. Does anyone have access to TV Times to check the dates of L.B. with S.S. to see if they tally please.

There maybe other questions that occur to other members which haven't occurred to me.
I am tied up today, so I will leave it in the capable hands of the other members to find answers to above and any other questions raised, hopefully by tomorrow,
when I look, this will all be resolved...thanks everyone for you help

[Ray Langstone (was saintsray)]

May 25, 2015 10:00:34 GMT @simonmoreby said:

Now it's my turn to be confused..for of 176 ME for Saturday Scene, 16 of these are listed at the bfi with holdings on VHS and also on other formats as indicated
below..most of these 16 seem to be in a block of ME starting at ME 48 28/9/74 - ME 60 21/12/74 along with ME 62 4/1/75, ME 77 19/4/75 and ME 78 26/4/75..
the confusing thing is that these 16 which come up under Saturday Scene have London Bridge as the original title..

www.lostshows.com/default.aspx?search=saturday+scene

www.lostshows.com/default.aspx?search=london+bridge

this raises a number of interesting questions..

1. thanks to John Green above, we know there have been several previous threads about Saturday Scene, did any of these indicate that S.S. and L.B are one
and the same Show, or that one was part of the other, or that one was a spin-off of the other?
2. the link above for L.B. says that there were 33 episodes of L.B. 4 of which are still ME, were/are these 33 of L.B. also episodes of S.S. still listed as ME under
S.S. and the 4 ME of L.B. do they tie up with dates for ME under S.S.?
3. Does the cast and crew for S.S. mirror the same for L.B.?
4. Does anyone have access to TV Times to check the dates of L.B. with S.S. to see if they tally please.

There maybe other questions that occur to other members which haven't occurred to me.
I am tied up today, so I will leave it in the capable hands of the other members to find answers to above and any other questions raised, hopefully by tomorrow,
when I look, this will all be resolved...thanks everyone for you help

London Bridge and Saturday Scene are different shows. Saturday Scene was essentially - in the beginning - a wraparound which was to link programmes within it (such as cartoons and childrens' films), which is where some of the confusion comes from. It outgrew itself due to the presence of Sally James, its' take up by some of the other regional ITV companies (but not ATV who had Tiswas....) and the fact the Saturday Scene components (such as popstar interviews, and semi-exclusive/exclusive promos) increased between 74 and 77.

Here's a quote from flashback.com:- ""Saturday Scene ran from 1973 to 1977 on ITV (LWT):
IT WASN’T all TISWAS and SIX FIFTY-FIVE SPECIAL for the lovely SALLY JAMES. In the mid-70s she was the host of this, your typical Saturday morning kids’ TV stuff (reading out letters, doing competitions, interviewing guests etc.) in between the likes of THUNDERBIRDS and assorted cartoonery. Occasionally followed at 11.00am (after a discreet break for JUNIOR POLICE FIVE) by a Saturday Scene Pop Scene special, featuring Sal’s “tips for the top”. Cartoons like the JETSONS, live action dramas like BEACHCOMBERS, film show CLAPPERBOARD and dismal magazine LONDON BRIDGE were all encompassed by the format. By ’76 it mutated into SUPERSONIC SATURDAY SCENE, with Sal joined by MIKE MANSFIELD of the ‘Sonic parish. Bought-in entertainment was boosted by SPACE 1999 – and deflated with TALES OF THE RIVERBANK. Towards the end they gave up even on that level of effort, and bunged a film like Charley’s Aunt across the schedule instead.""

Hence the confusion. London Bridge was made by LWT, just as Saturday Scene was.

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thank you to Ray for his post. Ray says Saturday Scene and London Bridge are different shows. So let's take a look at one of the ME in the lostshows.com
listing above...episode 57 30/11/74, to see what this consists/comprises of..
here is the Television Schedule for Saturday 30/11/74 from the TV Times London on Page 35.

9.00 Gardening Today..with Cyril Fletcher and Bob Price ATV Network Production.
9.25 All In A Day's Work..Will Anyone Want Me? held at the bfi 26.07 minutes on vhs, 2-inch Quadruplex and D3.
Will the Job you're training for exist when you're ready to do it? Careers Adviser/Manpower Planning Board LWT.

9.50 am Saturday Scene Sally James with guest The Bay City Rollers(estimate time 2.5 minutes because next..)
9.50 am Batman - Penquin's Clean Sweep (American Import - need to exclude from Saturday Scene? imdb says 30 mins..estimate 25 because next..)
Request Spot 1 Sally and a guest read some of your letters and cards on screen(estimate time 5 minutes because next..)
10.20 am London Bridge LWT (need to exclude from Saturday Scene because Ray says different Show 30 mins..estimate 25 because next..)
Jungle Ted and the Lacey Button Poppers(Mimo Film Production..cartoon (exclude or include?) estimate 5 minutes because next..)
New Releases Sally looks at the latest LPs and singles (estimate time 4 mins)
10.50 am Junior Police Five LWT (need to exclude as Lostshows has this as a separate item...exists complete 1977..10 mins as per schedule 4/6/77)
11.5 Tarzan King of the Dwasari (American Import - as above exclude, imdb says 60 mins, estimate time 48 minutes because next..)
Saturday Scene Pop Scene Sally's tips for the top..(estimate time 5 minutes because next..)
12.00 45 Kid Jensen,  Ronnie Lane and The Passing Show, Sweet(need to exclude as Granada Television..exists as 28/11/74 episode 25 minutes)
The No.1 Sound Top Of The Pops ends Saturday Scene( estimate time 3 minutes)
12.30 World of Sport

so with various exclusions above, Saturday Scene may just consist of 25 minutes or so, if we include Jungle Ted..
What do you, the other members make of the above, is it a fair assessment of what Saturday Scene make amount too..timewise.

Moving onto the holdings at the bfi, which the bfi has as Saturday Scene
www.collections-search.bfi.org.uk/web/Details/ChoiceFilmWorks/150801672

for ME 28/9/74  Saturday Scene, Kaleidoscope has Barry Blue Sally James, the link above which has 28/9/74 London Bridge also has SJ and BB.
for ME 12/10/74 Saturday Scene, Kaleidoscope has Jeff Rawle Sally James, the link above which has 12/10/74 London Bridge also has SJ and JR..
is it possible that on these dates SJ and BB, SJ and JR appeared in both Saturday Scene and London Bridge, or could these VHS holdings contain some
of Saturday Scene as well as London Bridge..28/9/74 holding is 26 minutes and 12/10/74 holding is 25 minutes..

[christian bews]

Was London Bridge a pop show or a teenage magazine similar to Thames tv's magpie?

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May 26, 2015 19:16:59 GMT christian bews said:

Was London Bridge a pop show or a teenage magazine similar to Thames tv's magpie?

Christian

I guess you are not far wrong to call it a teenage magazine...that TV Times Schedule above you 30/11/74 says 10.20 London Bridge Topics and activities involving
the lower teens..introduced by Michael Whale. uk imdb and bfi call him Michael Wale. uk imdb has pop stars such as Marc Bolan, Lynsey De Paul appearing
and the bfi holdings have Lynsey De Paul, Barry Blue and David Essex among casts..to name a few..

[John Green]

Another olde thread: missingepisodes.proboards.com/thread/6449/sweet-on-london-bridge Not a lot of information,though...

[Ray Langstone (was saintsray)]

May 25, 2015 19:56:55 GMT @simonmoreby said:

thank you to Ray for his post. Ray says Saturday Scene and London Bridge are different shows. So let's take a look at one of the ME in the lostshows.com
listing above...episode 57 30/11/74, to see what this consists/comprises of..
here is the Television Schedule for Saturday 30/11/74 from the TV Times London on Page 35.


9.50 am Saturday Scene Sally James with guest The Bay City Rollers(estimate time 2.5 minutes because next..)
9.50 am Batman - Penquin's Clean Sweep (American Import - need to exclude from Saturday Scene? imdb says 30 mins..estimate 25 because next..)
Request Spot 1 Sally and a guest read some of your letters and cards on screen(estimate time 5 minutes because next..)
10.20 am London Bridge LWT (need to exclude from Saturday Scene because Ray says different Show 30 mins..estimate 25 because next..)
Jungle Ted and the Lacey Button Poppers(Mimo Film Production..cartoon (exclude or include?) estimate 5 minutes because next..)
New Releases Sally looks at the latest LPs and singles (estimate time 4 mins)
10.50 am Junior Police Five LWT (need to exclude as Lostshows has this as a separate item...exists complete 1977..10 mins as per schedule 4/6/77)
11.5 Tarzan King of the Dwasari (American Import - as above exclude, imdb says 60 mins, estimate time 48 minutes because next..)
Saturday Scene Pop Scene Sally's tips for the top..(estimate time 5 minutes because next..)
12.00 45 Kid Jensen,  Ronnie Lane and The Passing Show, Sweet(need to exclude as Granada Television..exists as 28/11/74 episode 25 minutes)
The No.1 Sound Top Of The Pops ends Saturday Scene( estimate time 3 minutes)
12.30 World of Sport

so with various exclusions above, Saturday Scene may just consist of 25 minutes or so, if we include Jungle Ted..
What do you, the other members make of the above, is it a fair assessment of what Saturday Scene make amount too..timewise.

Moving onto the holdings at the bfi, which the bfi has as Saturday Scene
www.collections-search.bfi.org.uk/web/Details/ChoiceFilmWorks/150801672

for ME 28/9/74  Saturday Scene, Kaleidoscope has Barry Blue Sally James, the link above which has 28/9/74 London Bridge also has SJ and BB.
for ME 12/10/74 Saturday Scene, Kaleidoscope has Jeff Rawle Sally James, the link above which has 12/10/74 London Bridge also has SJ and JR..
is it possible that on these dates SJ and BB, SJ and JR appeared in both Saturday Scene and London Bridge, or could these VHS holdings contain some
of Saturday Scene as well as London Bridge..28/9/74 holding is 26 minutes and 12/10/74 holding is 25 minutes..

Excellent work Simon (as usual).

Saturday Scene in 1974 was a 'wraparound', with links, that would have been going on from the start of the sequence at 9.30, to the last show prior to World of Sport, as the schedule suggests.

London Bridge was produced by Mike Smith, who married Sally James....

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Ray
the Schedule did not suggest that Saturday Scene 'start of the sequence at 9.30' as you posted above, the 9.50 start time is as the Schedule says and I have
amended the Schedule to show the 2 previous programmes that started at 9.00 and 9.25, as I informed you in the PM to you.