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Post by John Andersen on Jan 13, 2015 21:09:52 GMT
Recons for The Underfunded Menace? I can more than deal with it. If there are more to be found, then let's just stand up and cheer. :-) Has gone rather quiet on that front............... It isn't a good sign for missing episodes of The Underwater Menace if they are going with animation or recons for a DVD release. With nothing else being announced since the return of The Enemy of the World and partial return of The Web of Fear, it doesn't look like anything else is coming back anytime soon. .
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Post by Tony Ingram on Jan 14, 2015 9:11:58 GMT
Has gone rather quiet on that front............... It isn't a good sign for missing episodes of The Underwater Menace if they are going with animation or recons for a DVD release. With nothing else being announced since the return of The Enemy of the World and partial return of The Web of Fear, it doesn't look like anything else is coming back anytime soon. . I think you're right. I've no doubt more episodes are out there, but I don't think the BBC are going to be getting their hands on them anytime in the near future.
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Post by shellyharman67 on Jan 14, 2015 11:27:35 GMT
It isn't a good sign for missing episodes of The Underwater Menace if they are going with animation or recons for a DVD release. With nothing else being announced since the return of The Enemy of the World and partial return of The Web of Fear, it doesn't look like anything else is coming back anytime soon. . I think you're right. I've no doubt more episodes are out there, but I don't think the BBC are going to be getting their hands on them anytime in the near future. If animated then the large haul rumour is dead for me IMO thats it ! For now..............
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Post by George D on Jan 14, 2015 11:37:12 GMT
I always felt that the omni rumor was too good to be true
I am still optimistic that there are more out there. Hopefully this is not the end and we all continue to keep our eyes open for potential leads
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Post by shellyharman67 on Jan 14, 2015 15:42:15 GMT
I always felt that the omni rumor was too good to be true I am still optimistic that there are more out there. Hopefully this is not the end and we all continue to keep our eyes open for potential leads I would just love to see a few more before i end up in an old folks home lol. That, or 6 feet under
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Post by John Andersen on Jan 14, 2015 18:04:04 GMT
It isn't a good sign for missing episodes of The Underwater Menace if they are going with animation or recons for a DVD release. With nothing else being announced since the return of The Enemy of the World and partial return of The Web of Fear, it doesn't look like anything else is coming back anytime soon. . I think you're right. I've no doubt more episodes are out there, but I don't think the BBC are going to be getting their hands on them anytime in the near future. If the BBC had anything else in their possession that people would buy, I have a feeling they would have released something by now. Even a few orphan episodes from the Hartnell and Troughton eras on a DVD release would be very welcome.
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Post by richardwoods on Jan 14, 2015 19:08:05 GMT
Mmmm, if we really have come to the end, (The Crusade not withstanding), and we take at face value the willingness to animate episodes 1 and 4 of the Underwater Menace, perhaps consideration will then be given to some sort of standalone reconstruction of The Faceless Ones and The Wheel In Space despite more than 2 episodes being missing. On the face of it, Wheel would be the simplest to do with 2 blocks of animation replacing episodes 1,2 and 4,5. The Faceless Ones would be more difficult to structure with episodes 2 and 4,5,6 giving a more uneven distribution, but I am in no doubt that it could be made to work, either by animating the whole lot or, by condensing the missing material, either way it would be great to have some more Pat on the shelf. Let's hope anyway.
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Post by lousingh on Jan 15, 2015 0:22:52 GMT
My semi-realistic hope is that we get at least one episode per story just so that we can have a flavour of what every story looked like. That would mean we need episodes from Marco Polo, The Myth Makers, The Massacre, The Savages, The Smugglers, The Power of the Daleks, The Highlanders, The Macra Terror, and Fury from the Deep, and, with luck, Mission to the Unknown. That doesn't seem overly-ambitious, does it? Maybe I will make a poll for the what single episodes of each story people would want.
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Post by RWels on Jan 15, 2015 9:21:54 GMT
My semi-realistic hope is that we get at least one episode per story just so that we can have a flavour of what every story looked like. That would mean we need episodes from Marco Polo, The Myth Makers, The Massacre, The Savages, The Smugglers, The Power of the Daleks, The Highlanders, The Macra Terror, and Fury from the Deep, and, with luck, Mission to the Unknown. That doesn't seem overly-ambitious, does it? Maybe I will make a poll for the what single episodes of each story people would want.
With a 4 part story episode 1 is the setup, 3 is usually action and 4 the conclusion, it seems that episode 2's are most logical as it seems 'to introduce the serial's monster/villain/dilemma in most cases.
That's 10 episodes at how much per episode? I doubt that the BBC would consider the idea for very long, unfortunately. Depends if he meant recovered or animated.
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Post by Andrew Parker on Jan 15, 2015 12:25:03 GMT
My semi-realistic hope is that we get at least one episode per story just so that we can have a flavour of what every story looked like. That would mean we need episodes from Marco Polo, The Myth Makers, The Massacre, The Savages, The Smugglers, The Power of the Daleks, The Highlanders, The Macra Terror, and Fury from the Deep, and, with luck, Mission to the Unknown. That doesn't seem overly-ambitious, does it? Maybe I will make a poll for the what single episodes of each story people would want. I've always wanted this as well, especially an episode from each of the fully missing stories in the third season,a nd the Highlandes. I know the Myth Makers and the Savages have some 8mm but it's very fleeting, same as the censor clips from the Highlanders; not the same as the censor clips from the Smugglers or the Macra Terror, or the plethora of clips from Fury. We can but hope orphan episodes turn up, and hopefully no duplicates among them.
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Post by Will Weller on Jan 15, 2015 12:26:00 GMT
My semi-realistic hope is that we get at least one episode per story just so that we can have a flavour of what every story looked like. That would mean we need episodes from Marco Polo, The Myth Makers, The Massacre, The Savages, The Smugglers, The Power of the Daleks, The Highlanders, The Macra Terror, and Fury from the Deep, and, with luck, Mission to the Unknown. That doesn't seem overly-ambitious, does it? Maybe I will make a poll for the what single episodes of each story people would want. I think that would be fantastic if we had at least one episode from every single missing story. If Mission to the Unknown couldn't be found however, then Galaxy 4 episode 4 would do fine. (At least we would have an idea of what it looked like with the reprise at the end.)
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Post by George D on Jan 15, 2015 16:00:28 GMT
The stuff dreams are made of... but appears far from reality
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Post by lousingh on Jan 15, 2015 16:24:41 GMT
I meant at least 1 actual surviving episodes per story. The alleged black market costs per episode vary depending on story quality, but I would imagine they are vary high considering the stampede for The Enemy of the World and The Web of Fear.
I actually think this is far more realistic than most people think. As someone who knows of people with superior copies of The Ambassadors of Death, Terror of the Autons, and The Mind of Evil than the BBC had before the chromadots (in particular, Terror of the Autons is essentially flawless and The Mind of Evil is pretty clean), I can imagine the methods of acquisition would have been similar in England. Besides, you would be amazed of what lands in private collections - some of the Beatles recoveries are from people who were fans who just got something who had no idea of their value.
That's why I think that not all of the braggarts who claim to have some missing episodes are blowing smoke. JMO.
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Post by George D on Jan 15, 2015 16:32:54 GMT
Whose claiming to have missing episodes?
I'm nOt saying there can't be more out there. To get one from each story The likelihood is there is an unKnown film from every story. Also the odds of just one from each would be unlikely unless specifically planned. more likely it would be a normal distribution where there Are some with multiple prints and some with just one. In short, for that to occur it would most likely have to be a lot found.
Just with certain stories the amount of prints Are very small (like power )
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Post by simonashby on Jan 15, 2015 16:44:02 GMT
As someone who knows of people with superior copies of The Ambassadors of Death, Terror of the Autons, and The Mind of Evil than the BBC had before the chromadots (in particular, Terror of the Autons is essentially flawless and The Mind of Evil is pretty clean). Unless the have the original Quad tapes (which they don't), how can they have superior copies to the BBC? Do explain.
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