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Post by Luke Curtis on Oct 14, 2014 21:52:07 GMT
He said completely. And sadly 3 was not there. Paul's wording is so good, I'm surprised he's not writing for dr who:) unfortunately , What is really happening we may never know and i guess us peons will let the power players do their politics. And hopeFully more will come out of this than politics. I know what you mean, Paul claimed Web of had not been found last year when he literally had the film can in his hands weeks earlier You and I both know what the intention of that comment was, to place a dagger through the heart of the MEW rumour, MEW with the M explicitly denied did a lot of damage to the rumour and those claiming to have sources, that is *exactly* what was intended The unintended consequence is that after this comment and Steve Roberts' "The computer says 106" a lot of people have no confidence in what anybody in the RT say.
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Post by George D on Oct 14, 2014 22:13:15 GMT
I agree that he intended to bust the rumor because they had their own way of revealing it, which made sense, created a significant profit for the bbc, and hopefully justify the refinancing for more.
Fwiw, I personally believe there could be mOre although not omnirumor size.
Hopefully things are going right. I Would hate to see episodes lost or not returned because of politics
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Post by Luke Curtis on Oct 15, 2014 18:31:35 GMT
I agree that he intended to bust the rumor because they had their own way of revealing it, which made sense, created a significant profit for the bbc, and hopefully justify the refinancing for more. Fwiw, I personally believe there could be mOre although not omnirumor size. Hopefully things are going right. I Would hate to see episodes lost or not returned because of politics 90 does seem to good to be true I would agree and while some of it does seem to be crazy such as Feast of Steven being found which does on the surface seem impossible. but the one thing that does seem to be rock solid over the last 2 years is 90+, you would have thought that if it wasn't 90+ that those leaking the info would have been corrected by now but they seem to be just as positive about the numbers as ever. Just consider how lucky we are already, S1, 2 & 6 are almost complete 5 is getting there now, how many series from the 60s are nearly complete? We see popular series in a far worse state such as ZCars & TOTP, we have high quality audio for all the episode, that really is incredible, large numbers of missing episodes covered by Telesnaps, clips from however small from every single story except Marco Polo and The Massacre IIRC (and Mission into the Unknown if you count that as a separate story, I don't) it does seem to be a show that people and companies do seem to keep a hold of.
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Post by George D on Oct 15, 2014 19:09:31 GMT
The omnirumor People are starting to say no more this year .. even ian appears to be considering the possibilty of Hoaxing in his Twitter post.
To me, it's the same as before .. when episodes are returned, people think more will follow. If a lot are returned People feel a lot more will follow. If we get to famine again, people will feel it's the end.
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Post by John Green on Oct 15, 2014 19:40:15 GMT
"Hoaxer" may be Ian's present final word,but it could well be subject to change.I think I'm right in saying that on Planet Mondas,he said that if he cared to he could produce overwhelming evidence to support the hoarding POV.If so,nothing was forthcoming.
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Post by George D on Oct 16, 2014 4:27:40 GMT
I'm just overjoyed that troughton is now over 50% complete. Two major finds recently- the 9 pm and the 2 from 2011- never expected this 5 years ago.
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Post by PAUL COTTON on Oct 16, 2014 8:43:08 GMT
There are a lot of missing episode hints in the curent series. Perhaps the most directly useful appears in 'Time Heist' where this message appears as part of the story.
TECH 251 ORG 339 PV
253 was the number of Hartnell/Troughton episodes broadcast in the 1960s so 251 would be another way of saying 95 found. The gap between 251 and 339 is 88(a reference to the 90 rumour possibly)
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Post by Will Weller on Oct 16, 2014 11:02:59 GMT
I think a year after "The Enemy of the World" and "The Web of Fear" were returned, I personally don't think "Marco Polo" was part of the recovered episodes. Its more likely that episode 3 of "The Web of Fear" was found, and it hasn't been.
What I'm trying to say is, say three complete stories were returned to the BBC. Why would they only announce two of them, one of which is still missing one episode. It would make much more sense to say, "Ok, here are two of the three recovered stories, the last one (Marco Polo) is badly damaged, but we have checked the 16mm prints, and the episodes appear to be complete". And then say that it would take about a year for complete restoration.
Maybe I'm missing something here, but I still think that if it had been found, it would have been announced along with Enemy and Web in October last year. As painful as it is to say, The number of missing episodes is staying at 97 for the time being.
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Post by mattplace on Oct 16, 2014 12:15:38 GMT
There are a lot of missing episode hints in the curent series. Perhaps the most directly useful appears in 'Time Heist' where this message appears as part of the story. TECH 251 ORG 339 PV 253 was the number of Hartnell/Troughton episodes broadcast in the 1960s so 251 would be another way of saying 95 found. The gap between 251 and 339 is 88(a reference to the 90 rumour possibly)
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Post by Charles Daniels on Oct 16, 2014 15:56:04 GMT
Last year there was a rumour that it has been found and being ristored. Now there is no sign off it is this serial lost forever ?? The serial is lost forever, unless and until someone finds it and brings that discovery to the attention of the BBC. That's really all there is to say sadly. With so many copies made of this serial, it is surprising that no copy of any installment is known to have survived. But I guess historicals were of far less interest in the 1960s/70s.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2014 16:03:36 GMT
Last year there was a rumour that it has been found and being ristored. Now there is no sign off it is this serial lost forever ?? The serial is lost forever, unless and until someone finds it and brings that discovery to the attention of the BBC. That's really all there is to say sadly. With so many copies made of this serial, it is surprising that no copy of any installment is known to have survived. But I guess historicals were of far less interest in the 1960s/70s. If I had a quid for everytime someone said that....
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Post by Richard Marple on Oct 16, 2014 16:44:45 GMT
I'm still pleased anything was found at all.
Also it's often been said that the historicals wern't as exported as much, not sure if that's true.
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Post by Michael Grey on Oct 16, 2014 17:44:44 GMT
There are a lot of missing episode hints in the curent series. Perhaps the most directly useful appears in 'Time Heist' where this message appears as part of the story. TECH 251 ORG 339 PV 253 was the number of Hartnell/Troughton episodes broadcast in the 1960s so 251 would be another way of saying 95 found. The gap between 251 and 339 is 88(a reference to the 90 rumour possibly) Or maybe just a random set of numbers & letters? :0
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Post by Stephen Byers on Oct 16, 2014 19:16:26 GMT
As an aside - in our search for lost BBC radio programmes (not Dr.Who) - there is one source overseas who has acknowledged that he has reel-reel tapes of the programmes that we are seeking. However he keeps giving us excuses as to why we cannot have access to them. This has been going on for over 10 years. We cannot do anything. It is likely that the said tapes are steadily deteriorating currently in t-chests in a damp garage. They are over 50 years' old. We understand that he is under the impression that the BBC will actually pay for the return of their programmes. Some hope.
This might be the debacle of the Marco Polo episodes - the owner might be under the impression that he has commercially valuable materiel that the Beeb will pay him for.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2014 19:57:56 GMT
As an aside - in our search for lost BBC radio programmes (not Dr.Who) - there is one source overseas who has acknowledged that he has reel-reel tapes of the programmes that we are seeking. However he keeps giving us excuses as to why we cannot have access to them. This has been going on for over 10 years. We cannot do anything. It is likely that the said tapes are steadily deteriorating currently in t-chests in a damp garage. They are over 50 years' old. We understand that he is under the impression that the BBC will actually pay for the return of their programmes. Some hope. This might be the debacle of the Marco Polo episodes - the owner might be under the impression that he has commercially valuable materiel that the Beeb will pay him for. Perhaps the reason for non-access is because he is hoaxing you and doesn't have anything - sound familiar?
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