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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 8:49:39 GMT
It's hard to vote on this in any meaningful way unless you watched (and still have a clear memory of) all the stories at the time, including those which are missing. Otherwise it's no more than pure guesswork. That is why I limited my votes to stories that I have actually seen and did not include reconned stories. As I have and enjoy all of the recons done to date, but I felt that I could only really pass judgment on the surviving stories (especially as I have never seen them complete as originally aired). I did fudge a bit on one or two that are missing only an episode (Web and Tenth Planet) because I felt that the majority of the story was present and this allowed me to make an informed choice. I think you can tell by watching the recons that Power, Evil, Marco, Massacre, Fury are good stories regardless whether they are missing or not. I agree that it is more difficult with average or poor stories like Enemy of the World to know their true qualities until they have been watched. If we ever get the chance to see them, I think The Faceless Ones and The Smugglers will go up in people's estimation.
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Post by richardwoods on Oct 7, 2014 9:32:40 GMT
Web, Snowmen and Evil from childhood memory all great stories, recently confirmed in the case of Web thank goodness. Also will give a tentative vote for Savages as I vaguely remember it being a good story and the plot reads as classic sci-fi which let's face it is what it's all about.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 13:36:21 GMT
A lot of the Troughton big beasts seem to be doing well.
Web of Fear, Power and Evil seem to be competing for the to spot.
It is also interesting to note the surge of some of the Hartnell stories. The Aztecs was leading but has since been overtaken by the Daleks and ofcourse the Daleks Masterplan is the top Hartnell one.
Hopefully once this vote is over we will get a clear picture of what is the definitive Doctor Who story. I think that the sixties stories are the building blocks to a successful Doctor Who story.
This is indeed very intersting.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 16:48:05 GMT
Hi James
There have been similar polls before on this forum including a thread "Which three stories?" which dealt with missing and incomplete stories only. Unfortunately the survey results have expired but Power came first and Web second (this was before it was recovered). You were only allowed to select 3 stories in this survey.
There are also 6 threads for a favourite story poll for the first six seasons.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 17:48:31 GMT
Hi James There have been similar polls before on this forum including a thread "Which three stories?" which dealt with missing and incomplete stories only. Unfortunately the survey results have expired but Power came first and Web second (this was before it was recovered). You were only allowed to select 3 stories in this survey. There are also 6 threads for a favourite story poll for the first six seasons. Hi Peter. Yes I am aware of the other polls but this is the first (and only) Superpoll. I am watching this poll with great interest. I think that it is far different from the other polls in that it has all fifty serials from the 1960s and that the results are available to see as people are voting. I did originally consider the option of just allowing only one vote but I realised that it would not be very feasible. Even with twelve votes people are finding this very difficult. However the most fascinating aspect of this poll is not the final destination but rather the journey. It was to my great surprise this afternoon that when I logged in and checked the poll's progress that I saw the two Troughton Dalek stories vying for second place. But hopefully this will be the poll to end all polls. Thanks for letting me know about the others. Regards James
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Post by mattplace on Oct 9, 2014 0:04:14 GMT
I'm slightly bemused that Planet of Giants has no votes, underwater menace has no votes and Highlanders has only 1 vote(as at 9/10/2014).... yet Space Pirates has a vote...each to their own.. but i really am not a fan of the space pirates.
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Post by Dave Green on Oct 9, 2014 5:39:01 GMT
Guilty as charged – I’m the one that added the vote for “The Dominators”, many people hate it but I think it’s fun to watch
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Post by Greg H on Oct 9, 2014 15:55:09 GMT
Guilty as charged – I’m the one that added the vote for “The Dominators”, many people hate it but I think it’s fun to watch The Dominators isn't all that bad. It is a fun watch; camp and undemanding. I think the only problem is that it isn't as good as some of the other Troughtons. That's all really.
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Post by Graeme Briscoe on Oct 9, 2014 18:39:51 GMT
Masterplan Celestial toymaker Smugglers Power Highlanders Macra terror Faceless ones tomb abominable snowmen Enemy of world Fury from the deep Seeds of death
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2014 18:43:03 GMT
Web of Fear, Power and Evil seem to be competing for the to spot. Hopefully once this vote is over we will get a clear picture of what is the definitive Doctor Who story. I take it then that those voting for Power and Evil will have all seen those stories in full recently, to actually make the poll meaningful in some way? Otherwise, I'm still unclear (and more than a little bemused) as to how it's possible to vote for a story that you haven't seen as being "best" or "definitive".
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2014 19:03:02 GMT
I voted for The Massacre having seen the loose cannon reconstruction - no surviving footage, no John Cura telesnaps, just a few production stills and photoshopped images with the audio - still a good story though.
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Post by Robert Lia on Oct 9, 2014 23:02:48 GMT
I only voted for the serials taht I have actually seen complete or complete with the animated episodes. I did not vote for any of the storys that only exist as recons granted some of them are pretty good (Power and Evil 2 name 2)
The Dead Planet, The Dalek Invasion of Earth, The Tomb of the Cybermen, The Enemy of the World, The Web of Fear and The Invasion.
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Post by Rob Moss on Oct 10, 2014 15:55:43 GMT
Web of Fear, Power and Evil seem to be competing for the to spot. Hopefully once this vote is over we will get a clear picture of what is the definitive Doctor Who story. I take it then that those voting for Power and Evil will have all seen those stories in full recently, to actually make the poll meaningful in some way? Otherwise, I'm still unclear (and more than a little bemused) as to how it's possible to vote for a story that you haven't seen as being "best" or "definitive". So then people who didn't watch them in the 60s can on;y vote for existing stories..? Isn't that going to skew the voting..? I think you can get a pretty good idea of the quality of a story from the audio, telesnaps and recons. Obviously it's not perfect, but I've seen enough to know that I was bored excrementless by The Celestial Toymaker on audio, and would probably be so watching it on DVD. Equally, Power and Fury kept me gripped throughout, even when I couldn't see what was happening. I think you have to take the poll in the spirit in which it's intended, which is clearly " Given what you have been able to experience, which of these is your favourite".
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2014 16:32:06 GMT
It would skew the poll, yes, but it's unnaturally skewed anyway if people are voting stories they haven't seen to the top.
It's a bit like my holding a poll of Ace Of Wands stories and voting Seven Serpents best (even though I only have hazy memories of one viewing 43 years ago). It's not possible to determine if the story was better than (e.g.) Peacock Pie unless it can be seen. Each to their own to do these things, of course, but most of the audios I've heard of missing DW stories which have since turned up have been totally different in quality to how they came across in sound only.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2014 16:59:49 GMT
The poll is just a bit of fun.
I have voted for the missing stories Power, Evil, Fury, Marco, Massacre as they appear now in a recon state, not as I imagine them to be 50 years ago.
I think stories like Daleks' Master Plan, Myth Makers, Mission, Highlanders, Savages really suffer from a lack of visuals so I haven't voted for them.
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