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Post by Jeff Leach on Aug 31, 2014 21:59:43 GMT
Caught the showing on Saturday night on BBC 2 - turned out to be a repeat - but I was suitably impressed because the sound and picture
quality was exceptional !
All Presented in original ratio, or at least 14 by 9 featuring many 70's, 80's and 90's artists in very clear vision with the added bonus of crystal clear sound, The Faces and Abba tracks sounding great.
Certainly the best resolution I've seen the eighties clips presented in, as usually they have been cropped and have had a smeary worn look about them.
Has something been done with the encoding or some other technical process as I have seen the pops and other archive music shows on BBC2 HD and BBC4 recently and they weren't in the same broadcast quality.
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Post by Dave Woods on Sept 1, 2014 17:39:35 GMT
I can't comment on whether there's been any change but the picture did look good on BBC2 HD. For anyone who might be interested this episode was one of the run of ten from mid-2012 that got a pretty positive response here (just this once). I believe they're showing the next one in that run next Saturday night, so if you want to pick those shows up in HD...
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Post by Liam Joseph on Sept 15, 2014 7:30:18 GMT
I saw Saturday's episode and can't believe they showed the Mixtures from 1971, complete with glimpses of You Know Who chatting up a girl in the audience. I hope the Daily Mail weren't watching.
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Post by John Smith on Sept 21, 2014 14:44:23 GMT
They were unfortunately
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Post by Liam Joseph on Sept 22, 2014 7:32:09 GMT
The Beeb really are something! You'd think in a programme presented by JS they would carefully vet anything shown to make sure he wasn't in it. He's only in the Mixtures clip for a couple of seconds so surely it would be easy to re-edit and remove him. Hope this doesn't put them off showing what little is left from the late 60s/early 70s.
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Post by Chris Barratt on Sept 22, 2014 9:27:58 GMT
This TOTP2 was originally screened in the halcyon days of Summer 2012, before the circus rolled into town. Due to the fact the JS appeared for a second during a crowd shot on a performance of an existing compilation, this will not have been flagged by the BBC Stasi. That anyone would be concerned with the on-screen presence for a split second of someone who presented mainstream television programmes for years and died an innocent man just three years ago shows how far this country has fallen. With all shows presented by him under 'lockdown' and thus effectively wiped, the question is are the BBC trustworthy custodians of their (our) heritage - with the likes of Entwistle and Hall in charge, the answer has to be 'no'. This is petty revisionism at it's worst - it's not up to the likes of Tony Hall to censor their archive to appease tabloid/commercial sensibilities, when these programmes were made using license payers money. There is precious in the way of half-decent television now anyway without the BBC selling us all down the river completely. 'Banning' shows presented by him for terrestrial repeats is one thing - censoring the archive completely is another, and is a very sinister development indeed. To drag in relevance to 'missing episodes', what damage will this do for the recovery of associated wiped programmes when the spineless BBC view such footage as 'toxic' to the point that they aren't even prepared to make performances from said editions available to their research team for compilation shows? It was just three years ago that DG Mark Thompson assured Jonathan King re: TOTP on BBC4 ‘The BBC doesn’t think it should be rewriting history so will be showing these programmes in their entirety.’ I know how much effort by Mark Cooper and the BBC4 team have had to put into maintaining the TOTP repeats (the man is a hero, believe me) - outright hostility in certain quarters by careerist leeches who are more concerned with politics than providing all license payers with entertaining broadcasting. retardedkingdom.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/its-only-rock-n-roll.html
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Post by John Green on Sept 22, 2014 19:47:51 GMT
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Post by Chris Barratt on Sept 22, 2014 23:29:02 GMT
I look forward to their apology to me when I remind the Life Peer Lord Hall of Birkenhead that the BBC archive isn't for him to play political handball with, and that I want my books without half the pages missing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 12:44:21 GMT
I simply despair that the stoked-up hysteria surrounding Saville and others just seems to get worse and worse.
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Post by Dave Woods on Sept 23, 2014 21:06:47 GMT
Well, if you, or a daughter, or a son, had been abused by Savile then you might just possibly not feel inclined to dismiss it as hysteria. Indeed you might very much wish not to see him gurning away at you in the name of entertainment. Which is not to say that Savile abused anyone. Which is not to say that any one of the hundreds of people who say they were abused by him is lying.
Personally I think they should carry on showing TOTP2, even though it's just bits and bobs culled from episodes of TOTP and is therefore - by some people's definition - completely re-writing history. Because I think that nostalgia and history are two different things.
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Post by Chris Barratt on Sept 24, 2014 0:30:04 GMT
Television's have 'off' switches and people should be free to choose what they want to watch what they want. If they don't like it, change channel. I understand there are lots of channels broadcasting mainstream garbage, and only a couple that appeal to me in 2014. I'm resigned to becoming ever more marginalised in terms of TV in the future.
Censoring an entire archive to everyone - which is what the BBC appear to be doing under Baron Hall of Birkenhead - is something else entirely. And headline news over split-second footage (that clearly nobody noticed unless they knew their TOTP like us, otherwise it wouldn't have taken 7 days to become a 'story') of a man they then inserted into tonights news with obvious malicious journalistic intent is clear hypocrisy. That is hysteria, and if - IF - there are any victims, wouldn't it be the headline news be causing them more trauma than 2 seconds of the bloody Pushbike Song?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 10:28:26 GMT
Expect more: DLT was found guilty yesterday of 1 of the charges against him.
I get it totally about preserving the episodes as broadcast etc etc and endorse and support that: from my pov, the DJ links always just got on my nerves; even as a child, the music was always the important thing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 13:48:02 GMT
It is more important, yes, but context is important as well. Seeing how music was presented visually (and by whom) to the public says a lot about the past when viewing it now. I don't want the past sanitised; for better or worse, I want the truth of the situation above all else. Now that certain DJs are generally banished from our screens, all that's left is for people to get in a lather about what almost amount to subliminal cutaways. Hitler's crimes were far worse - and on a much larger scale - yet there are no end of WW2 documentaries featuring him on our screens!
I know it has all seen said many times over but I can't help but find it a very sinister and repressive development of this nanny state we find ourselves living in.
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Post by John Green on Sept 24, 2014 14:07:17 GMT
Remember when that that overweight Belgian (?) was having a massage on the beach in Bali,while his secret family were locked-up in a basement back 'home'?It's difficult not to view the footage of him without thinking about what he'd done.I hate many forms of censorship/restriction.but can see that many of Savile's victims/alleged victims and their families could be acutely distressed to see him strutting around on TV.I agree that we don't do the same thing with books and films,withdrawing them because they were created by (alleged) sex-offenders.
Added: Austrian?
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Post by Liam Joseph on Sept 24, 2014 15:28:15 GMT
I get it totally about preserving the episodes as broadcast etc etc and endorse and support that: from my pov, the DJ links always just got on my nerves; even as a child, the music was always the important thing. I agree with this. Ideally we could see whole episodes on mainstream TV, but in the current climate that is not possible and clips of performances from the JS shows with him judiciously excised are the best that can be hoped for. As and when the BBC make full episodes available online I think there should be no censorship - just a warning to those who might be offended. Stuff the tabloid "Beeb make money from perv Savile" rubbish. There are of plenty of TOTP clips featuring JS on YouTube and no-one is demanding they be taken down. Then again, maybe it's only a matter of time...
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