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Post by markandresen on Aug 2, 2015 14:01:46 GMT
Rumour is that the Orwell estate are the problem-the copyright runs out soon,I believe,and it's said that they're hoping for a big feature film or something. Apologies for not updating this. How irritating! I don't see why releasing this version would preclude a feature film also being produced. It's just plain mean to deny the public access to this acclaimed production. Agree. They've been deeming its commercial release an issue for over twenty years now. It's about time they updated and compromised over their terms and conditions in this new digital age. Almost everyone else has managed this.
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Post by John Wall on Aug 16, 2015 19:35:49 GMT
The big "problem" is just how good the Kneale/Cartier/Cushing version is - neither of the subsequent movie versions come close. Why else would they want to block it ?
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Post by John W King on Sept 9, 2015 19:51:29 GMT
Way back in the late 1970s I started to write a play based on 1984 but I was stopped by the Orwell estate. David Bowie was likewise stopped from developing a musical version. Some of the songs ended up on his Diamond Dogs album. The excuse given was that major film was in development. This eventually was the Richard Burton film. But that was years ago. Fortunately I have a video tape I recorded of the Peter Cushing version. And then last year a play version toured a number of theatres including the Roses in Tewkesbury. Alas I didn't get to see it but it made me wonder if the restrictions had changed. Also the earlier film version became available on DVD. So why no Peter Cushing version on DVD? Or does the problem now lie with Nigel Neale's estate? Totally irrelevant but Orwell is buried in Milton, a village only a few miles from where I live in Didcot.
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Post by Richard Marple on Sept 9, 2015 23:03:27 GMT
George Orwell died in 1950, so how much longer before Nineteen Eighty Four passes into the public domain, or are film rights worked out differently?
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Post by Barry Hodge on Sept 10, 2015 17:38:49 GMT
I'm sure there was a piece online about the restoration of the thing that included information as to why the release was eventually blocked... We're looking years back, maybe just after the restoration of Quatermass - which, having just looked on the old Restoration Team site, was a decade ago!
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Post by ajsmith on Sept 16, 2015 14:11:31 GMT
When it finally comes out, they should title the DVD 'At last the 1984 show'.
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Post by RWels on Sept 16, 2015 16:49:57 GMT
When it finally comes out, they should title the DVD 'At last the 1984 show'. That would cast a gloom over the ministry of silly walks. "We were lucky in those days, even though we had a rat on our face." 'BECAUSE we had a rat on our face!'...
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Post by markandresen on Sept 17, 2015 7:28:38 GMT
When it finally comes out, they should title the DVD 'At last the 1984 show'. Excellent!
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Post by John Green on Oct 15, 2015 12:29:47 GMT
Now dropped by the BFI because of clearance issues.
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Post by George D on Oct 16, 2015 23:01:17 GMT
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Post by mattbarker on Mar 28, 2022 13:05:15 GMT
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Post by mattbarker on Mar 28, 2022 16:20:15 GMT
Do people know if film element inserts still exist for this? I've just watched the trailer for the blu-ray/dvd on the BFI channel on YouTube which is a clip from the hate session, and the picture quality is extraordinary.
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Post by John Green on Mar 28, 2022 17:08:19 GMT
Thanks, Matt, been meaning to update this.
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Post by Peter Stirling on Mar 28, 2022 22:27:16 GMT
Do people know if film element inserts still exist for this? I've just watched the trailer for the blu-ray/dvd on the BFI channel on YouTube which is a clip from the hate session, and the picture quality is extraordinary. Dont think the 'location' film was electronically mixed into the studio telerecording but edited into the TR master itself.So it saved on generations.
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Post by markboulton on Mar 29, 2022 11:43:50 GMT
Do people know if film element inserts still exist for this? I've just watched the trailer for the blu-ray/dvd on the BFI channel on YouTube which is a clip from the hate session, and the picture quality is extraordinary. Dont think the 'location' film was electronically mixed into the studio telerecording but edited into the TR master itself.So it saved on generations. Not sure if it quite worked like that because the telerecording that survives was surely the second (repeat) performance, which was a live re-mount, as normal practice at the time, the first performance not being telerecorded again as per usual practice, and that the 'repeat' was only recorded because of the furore caused by the first performance. So yes, the location film might have been edited in to the film recording of the second performance after the fact, but I don't think the repeat was actually transmitted from an edited telerecording.
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