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So what's in it for private collectors?
« Thread Started on Jun 19, 2012, 2:55pm »
Just wondering: What does a film collector get for returning an episode? Apparently, a life size dalek, but apart from that? Money (probably not)? Fame? A full set of DVDs? If our hopes lie with private collectors returning prints, this should be thought about.
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Re: So what's in it for private collectors?
« Reply #1 on Jun 19, 2012, 3:03pm »
Well, knowing the fanaticism of doctor who fans, I would imagine a lifetime of adulation, praise and whatever else you wanted from ten thousand fan boys. It would probably appeal to some.

Personaly, if I had missing who material I think I would return it anonymously just so other people could enjoy it as well. That would be sufficient for me.
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« Reply #2 on Jun 19, 2012, 3:05pm »
Hi there,
I don't think there is so much a reward for returning episodes... I remember that Blue Peter were offering people the daleks, but I don't know whether that offer still stands. In terms of fame, given the fact that episodes aren't turning up very often these days (apart from the 2 last year), I imagine that you would at least get on the (BBC) News. I remember seeing a report on the news about Terry's discovery at the time. In terms of money, I think that (you can correct me on this) the BBC pretty much have a policy not to negotiate over episodes, but I'm not sure. If that was allowed, think about the sort of amounts that some greedy people could end up demanding.
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« Reply #3 on Jun 19, 2012, 3:06pm »
Oh, didn't notice Greg's message. That too, I suppose.
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« Reply #4 on Jun 19, 2012, 3:38pm »

Jun 19, 2012, 2:55pm, RWels wrote:
Just wondering: What does a film collector get for returning an episode? Apparently, a life size dalek, but apart from that? Money (probably not)? Fame? A full set of DVDs? If our hopes lie with private collectors returning prints, this should be thought about.




At one point, Ian Levine was offering to purchase lost episodes for 2,000 pounds each. I think that offer is still good if people wish to deal with him.
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Re: So what's in it for private collectors?
« Reply #5 on Jun 19, 2012, 4:02pm »
If you get a life sized Dalek, you can do anything with that Dalek. Such as trying to get Matt Smith or David Tennent to sign it then selling it on Ebay. At which point I think you'll get your monetary compensation.
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Re: So what's in it for private collectors?
« Reply #6 on Jun 19, 2012, 4:34pm »

Jun 19, 2012, 3:05pm, richardf wrote:
I remember that Blue Peter were offering people the daleks, but I don't know whether that offer still stands.

That wasn't Blue Peter as such, it was Ian Levine, who was offering to pay for something that would appeal to the children. I believe that Ian later indicated that this offer would alternatively be a £2000 cash reward for adults who didn't want a Dalek. I would guess that Ian would still be willing to honour that, if the existence of another lost episode could be positively proved.
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Re: So what's in it for private collectors?
« Reply #7 on Jun 19, 2012, 6:56pm »
At the very least for a single episode i would expect....

1. A copy of the DVD from the BBC with the episode(s) that generated this goldmine for BBC enterprises.

2. A thank you letter from the person in charge of BBC enterprises.

3. a Credit somewhere on the packaging or inside notes without making a meal of it.





If i found Evil of the Daleks, Power of the Daleks or The Daleks Master Plan COMPLETE then i would expect.....

1. A Signed copy of the DVD from any cast member still around

2. A thank you letter from the Director General of the BBC (no excuses now!)

3. A big mention in the inside sleeve notes and a small note on how this fantastic recovery came about

4. The same as above but in the Radio times.

5. Karen Gillan to hand deliver the goods and a photoshoot in her companion costume for the Radio times (or Jenna-Louise Coleman perhaps). :-*

6. A cameo in one of the next episodes (non-speaking of course)


Not being greedy at all - think of the publicity for the BBC and their marketing. ;D





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Re: So what's in it for private collectors?
« Reply #8 on Jun 19, 2012, 7:00pm »
I've loaned a lot of material to the BBC including Dr. Who prints (not missing, but where I had a better copy in one way or another), insert footage, and missing episodes of others shows... I've never asked for anything in return other than for them to cover the cost of postage to send them the prints...

I believe the same can be said for a lot of other collectors as well...
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« Reply #9 on Jun 19, 2012, 7:24pm »
What's more likely is that you'd be castigated by a load of ungrateful fans for having sat on it for years - although not knowing it was missing - and then be subjected to instructions to check everything else in your collection immediately.
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Re: So what's in it for private collectors?
« Reply #10 on Jun 19, 2012, 7:40pm »

Jun 19, 2012, 7:00pm, Steven Sigel wrote:
I've loaned a lot of material to the BBC including Dr. Who prints (not missing, but where I had a better copy in one way or another), insert footage, and missing episodes of others shows... I've never asked for anything in return other than for them to cover the cost of postage to send them the prints...

I believe the same can be said for a lot of other collectors as well...

Well, yes, but I get the impression (with foreign channels now mostly checked?) that any episodes still out there must be in the hands of collectors less eager to return the prize of their collection. The ones who get a kick out of having something unique.
Now one way to deal with this is to call them hoarders and be condescending and possibly insulting to them, but that isn't very likely to change their minds. What we want is their cooperation.

Actually it would be a bit ironic to reward them, and not people like you who were less difficult about the cause. But that can't be helped.

Note that DW is not my area of expertise, I've only just finished series 1 (1963), so correct me or argue with me on any of the above if necessary.
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« Reply #11 on Jun 19, 2012, 8:29pm »
@Rainer -- I think that it's more likely that episodes would be in the hands of people who don't realize that they are missing. What they'd do with them if they found out is another question -- but so far, fortunately, all of the collectors who have had it brought to their attention that they had missing Dr. Who have been willing to return it -- Ian Levine, David Stead, Gordon Hendry, Bruce Grenville, Francis Watson and Terry Burnett all come to mind as people who have loaned back their episodes with no demands for anything in return.
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Re: So what's in it for private collectors?
« Reply #12 on Jun 19, 2012, 9:14pm »
I would be very grateful for a copy of the DVD but I wouldn't 'demand' it. I think the greatest reward, from a Doctor Who fans view, is that you have helped fill a gap in Doctor Who's archive which would just feel great. Many collectors don't want to appear on the news or in the Radio Times but will just be satisfied that they have returned material as having all that attention would probably get very annoying. Any way, that's my opinion on the matter.
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Re: So what's in it for private collectors?
« Reply #13 on Jun 19, 2012, 9:24pm »
I agree with Simeon :)
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Re: So what's in it for private collectors?
« Reply #14 on Jun 19, 2012, 10:30pm »
Has there never been a case yet of someone refusing to hand back a DW episode, for reasons of his own?
I know of a few examples in other areas, but they might appear hoaxes because the copy's owner doesn't want to be known/bothered. This makes it nearly indistinguishable from an actual hoax, so it's probably hard to say if this is happening to DW or not.
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