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« Reply #60 on Aug 27, 2012, 8:58pm » | |
Aug 27, 2012, 1:26pm, Rob Mould wrote:
If all this extra footage turns up we wonder what other gems that apple and maybe the Beatles themselves have in the archives? any guesses anyone? |
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I'd plump for Shea over Let It Be - and (obviously) a full DVD of the promos. I imagine Let It Be out-takes, as evidenced by what is out there now- could be quite tedious. But it obviously deserves a release at some point.
Beyond that, there's other live stuff from Australia, Tokyo. Munich and The NME Poll Winners that could be released. I'd like to see the two David Frost Shows with John and George get a full release- fascinating as they are.
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« Reply #61 on Aug 27, 2012, 11:06pm » | |
Aug 27, 2012, 10:31am, Laurence Piper wrote:| Yes, especially as it's not a long playing time in total. So it's a case of wait for the sales! Although (if the example of Anthology is anything to go by) it may be an age before it can be bought at a reasonable price in this way. To date I have not upgraded to DVD with Anthology as I figured I'd already spent well enough on the series (over £100 all told) for the VHS version without forking out again. |
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I can actually understand that price if you consider that it may be to cover clearances by the Bonzos, Traffic and even the G.U.S. Footwear (formerly Munn & Felton Works') Brass Band!!!
Or of course they could just simply be being greedy.... 
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« Reply #62 on Aug 27, 2012, 11:09pm » | |
Aug 27, 2012, 1:26pm, Rob Mould wrote:I agree with the postings on the higher charges yes they are a bit greedy to say the least.
I am so pleased this dvd/ bu ray is coming out.the quality before was poor compared to what we can do now.The deluxe collectors set price is really steep at £59. We await Let it Be Next year now that will be a real gem.
If all this extra footage turns up we wonder what other gems that apple and maybe the Beatles themselves have in the archives? any guesses anyone? |
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Yes, I think with all 'deluxe package' releases (of which all new albums get one) the price differential between the standard and deluxe releases is far too high.
I can understand wanting to claw back the lost earnings on the number of people who will buy the non-physical versions, as a way of covering the setup costs and producing the comparatively low duplication run of the physical product, but such prices hardly incentivise the diminishing market for such things that is still (only just) there.
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« Reply #63 on Aug 28, 2012, 8:23am » | |
I agree that shea stadium footage and the other live shows should be released on dvd.
puzzles me why Shea hasnt?
All the promosshould be on 1 dvd. Many bootlegs do have them like this just want official releases.
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« Reply #64 on Aug 28, 2012, 8:33am » | |
Aug 27, 2012, 11:06pm, markboulton wrote:
I can actually understand that price if you consider that it may be to cover clearances by the Bonzos, Traffic and even the G.U.S. Footwear (formerly Munn & Felton Works') Brass Band!!!
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Yes!!
I know what you're saying there (and I do support artists being paid for their efforts) but the average punter won't see it that way as it's still £100 out of their pocket for whatever reason, which is a hefty amount to hand over (even more so in the '90s).
As far as what other people are saying with regard to future releases, I'd also plump for Shea over Let It Be any day; I can't get very excited about the latter, even though it shows the band at work. The rooftop session is the only really worthwhile bit of it ultimately. It's a record of the band at the end rather than at their peak (which is what Shea is). Over all of these though I'd first of all like to see a "video greatest hits", which seemed an obvious one even ten years ago. Why it hasn't appeared is one of life's great mysteries!
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« Reply #65 on Aug 28, 2012, 5:46pm » | |
Aug 28, 2012, 8:33am, Laurence Piper wrote:[quote author=markboulton board=totp thread=7204 post=77009 time=1346108807]
Why it hasn't appeared is one of life's great mysteries!
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Indeed, I dare say that if one examined Apple, it is littered with lost opportunities. I dread to think of how much they lost over downloads of the songs. Given it took them over 10 years to get it together, the amount lost to illegal file-sharing must be extraordinary.
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« Reply #66 on Aug 28, 2012, 7:39pm » | |
Apple's policy is weird, to say the least. They also put a pristine, cleaned up version of the Washington concert online for a limited time and then fail to follow it up with a DVD release! That's another missed opportunity for them which has no doubt been grabbed and unofficially circulated by now.
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« Reply #67 on Aug 28, 2012, 8:01pm » | |
Aug 28, 2012, 8:23am, Rob Mould wrote:I agree that shea stadium footage and the other live shows should be released on dvd.
puzzles me why Shea hasnt?
All the promosshould be on 1 dvd. Many bootlegs do have them like this just want official releases. |
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I want everything they could release out on DVD!
If I had to make a choice, I'd plump for Let It Be over Shea. Shea wouldn't have any bonus features, I reckon. Let It Be would. One song from Shea is not even the right audio (Act Naturally), and LIB contains more Fabs music, more songs, and does have - for the most part - a more exciting concert. The film's better quality too.
But, I want everything released they could! Promos would actually be a priority over the two, for me!
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« Reply #68 on Aug 28, 2012, 9:18pm » | |
Apple are the masters of befuddlement, when it comes to The Beatles.
Goodness knows how they failed to tie in a promo films collection on VHS or the new fangled DVD format back in 2000 alongside the release of 1.
Concerning the Shea Stadium concert, Apple released the performance of Dizzy Miss Lizzy around 3 years ago, in order to promote the release of The Capital Albums Vol.2 collection, nicely remastered although whether this originated from the clean-up carried out for the Anthology project, I'm not certain.
Anyone hearing the line recording from that concert will wince at Ringo's 'vocal' for Act Naturally, so it's a slight surprise that an 'as live' vocal wasn't retried, whenthe Fabs went back into the studio in early '66 to beef up aspects of the soundtrack which were hit by technical limitations, on the night.
However, I'd prefer an 'iffy' Ringo vocal to having the album version dubbed over the footage, any day of the week.
Additionally, the Twist and Shout rendition is actually overdubbed with a rendition from one of their Hollywood Bowl concerts!
Supposedly, the whole concert was originally remastered in the early Nineties, so has been sitting in Apple's vaults for 20 odd years now.
That's useful....
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« Reply #69 on Aug 28, 2012, 9:26pm » | |
Even more astonishing, when all of the solo Beatles have had some sort of promo films collection released....
(Ringo's Photograph promo made by Caravel at Tittenhurst, specially for TOTP, and not seen since.... oh, how nice it would be if that went on youtube next month.... (####laughs like a banshee....)
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« Reply #70 on Aug 29, 2012, 1:36am » | |
Aug 28, 2012, 9:18pm, jamiehunt wrote:
Additionally, the Twist and Shout rendition is actually overdubbed with a rendition from one of their Hollywood Bowl concerts!
Supposedly, the whole concert was originally remastered in the early Nineties, so has been sitting in Apple's vaults for 20 odd years now.
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The funny thing is, that the BBC repeat of the concert at christmastime in 1979 had the original version of "Twist and Shout" on it, you can definately clearly hear the originally total detuned guitars as opposed to the very good Hollywood Bowl recording where they were in perfect tune.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/carousel/pob/RockOnTV65.html
The remastered Anthology version from 1995 however, had the overdubbed "Hollywood Bowl" recording of the film. This is something that has always puzzled me ever since, as even Mark Lewisohn described and confirmed the overdub session in his Book "The complete Beatles Chronicle" on January 5th 1966.
But the original U.S. and UK TV-edits from 1966 must have had the untouched version of "Twist and Shout" on them, something which I can definately proof, as I own an original audio cut of an off air philips compact cassette (handheld microphone) recording of the only ever german broadcast of the Shea Concert film, called "Die Beatles in New York" (with very stupid but typical of the day german translation/narration) from ARD-TV in b&w on 02/08/1966 at 8:15 pm CET. (Note:Colour-TV transmission started in Germany only one year later, in August 1967!)
The production was purchased/copyrighted by the ARD, like by all other tv-stations around the world, directly from Brian Epstein's NEMS Enterprises.
As I said before, this was the only time the Shea film has ever been shown on TV in Germany, it was never repeated.
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« Reply #71 on Aug 29, 2012, 9:20am » | |
Although the term "promo films" is bandied about in relation to any potential greatest hits DVD, I'd hope that it would include the video promos too (and not just the ones made on film)! Otherwise it would leave out important material such as the Ed Sullivan colour VT clips of Paperback Writer / Rain (which slipped through the net when the "real" Ed Sullivan set was brought out on DVD), the ten October '65 promos, All You Need Is Love and the Hey Jude / Revolution clips. As there is such a surfeit of clips though, there really needs to be two collections: a video greatest hits (doing just what it says) and a "Beatles On TV" set (which would bring together standalone TV appearances such as TYLS, Big Night Out, RSG, Royal Variety Show, Music Of Lennon & McCartney, Scene At 6.30 and Morecambe & Wise etc. etc).
Of course, it's all hypothetical..! 
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« Reply #72 on Aug 29, 2012, 7:40pm » | |
I agree with Laurence and the other posters here that there is a WEALTH of Beatles performances that could, and should, be compiled onto DVD's and Blu-rays for us all to enjoy. Maybe the Fab Four's 50th anniversary (2013) might bring forth some nice surprises from the Apple vaults...
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« Reply #73 on Aug 29, 2012, 11:37pm » | |
I hear that Apple's new CEO Jeff Jones is receptive to new ideas regarding Beatles projects. It may be worth dropping him a line. While we document our dismay at the dearth of archival material on offer- it might be that few actually get in touch direct to voice this. Worth a try....
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« Reply #74 on Aug 29, 2012, 11:50pm » | |
Aug 29, 2012, 11:37pm, simonwells61 wrote:I hear that Apple's new CEO Jeff Jones is receptive to new ideas regarding Beatles projects. It may be worth dropping him a line. While we document our dismay at the dearth of archival material on offer- it might be that few actually get in touch direct to voice this. Worth a try....
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Jeff isn't the problem. I'm sure if he had his way, he'd issue the sort of things we'd like and know it makes good business sense. Unfortunately the final say boils down to Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, Yoko Ono and Olivia Harrison - if one of them says no, then that's the end of it. Getting all four of them to agree on something... well...
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