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Re: Sounds of the Seventies - New Series
« Reply #90 on May 23, 2012, 8:15am »

Thing is with a 'prog' episode, you'd be lucky to get three tracks in, in the time.

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Re: Sounds of the Seventies - New Series
« Reply #91 on May 23, 2012, 8:41am »

May 23, 2012, 8:15am, markg wrote:

Thing is with a 'prog' episode, you'd be lucky to get three tracks in, in the time.

HAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe a Ramones special would suffice....about 12 songs in half an hour!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Sounds of the Seventies - New Series
« Reply #92 on May 23, 2012, 1:21pm »

I agree that what constitutes "prog" is difficult to define, but you could get a pretty decent prog(ish) special from surviving TOTP footage:

Argent - Tragedy
Uriah Heep - The Wizard
Family - In My Own Time
Strawbs - The Hangman and the Papist
Jethro Tull - Witch's Promise
Atomic Rooster - Tomorrow Night
Manfred Mann's Earth Band - Joybringer
East of Eden - Jig a Jig (audience dancing)
Focus - Sylvia (film clip)
Hawkwind- Silver machine (film clip)

And not one of 'em over five minutes!

It's a shame about all the prog bands whose TOTP appearances got wiped - Caravan, Yes, King Crimson, Audience, Fairfield Parlour et al. And don't even get me started on what the BBC did to Colour Me Pop and Disco 2. >:(

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Re: Sounds of the Seventies - New Series
« Reply #93 on May 23, 2012, 1:24pm »

The BBC are well aware of Argent and Witch's Promise from my first list.

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Re: Sounds of the Seventies - New Series
« Reply #94 on May 23, 2012, 1:27pm »

Yes good luck with that Ray, I hope your efforts get some of this rare stuff shown.

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Re: Sounds of the Seventies - New Series
« Reply #95 on May 23, 2012, 1:42pm »

Still no news.

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« Reply #96 on May 23, 2012, 2:00pm »

They said this new series of 'Sounds Of The Seventies' would not repeat footage from the first series.
Well, the 1970 colour Top Of The Pops performance of 'The Witch's Promise' by Jethro Tull was broadcast in show 4 in the first series.

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« Reply #97 on May 23, 2012, 3:03pm »

May 23, 2012, 1:24pm, Ray Langstone (was saintsray) wrote:

The BBC are well aware of Argent and Witch's Promise from my first list.

But Witches Promise has been shown a few times... but I'd welcome plenty more screenings, classic performance and track that it is!

Family - 'Weavers Answer' MUST be screened someday though... thats my biggest current wish for broadcast out of the many on the 'unbroadcast' list.

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Re: Sounds of the Seventies - New Series
« Reply #98 on May 23, 2012, 9:59pm »

Did anyone else notice that the Bad Company "Can't Get Enough" performance was shot entirely by just one camera? It was a pretty impressive piece of camera-work, but was wondering why it was done this way. I think this was the last episode before the strike in the summer of 74, maybe the rest of the crew were already out and only one guy was left...??

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« Reply #99 on May 24, 2012, 12:54pm »

May 23, 2012, 3:03pm, Paul Varley wrote:

May 23, 2012, 1:24pm, Ray Langstone (was saintsray) wrote:

The BBC are well aware of Argent and Witch's Promise from my first list.

How about "Devil's Answer" ? Quite like that one...

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« Reply #100 on May 24, 2012, 1:29pm »

May 21, 2012, 9:38pm, Paul Varley wrote:

How wonderful to see Bad Company 'Can't Get Enough' at last!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqUB2UWRDVU

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« Reply #101 on May 24, 2012, 2:32pm »

""Hi Mark,

Happy New Year!

Firstly, the 04/07/1972, broadcast 06/07/1972 edition of TOTP with Starman on it does not exist at the BBC IN FULL. There are a couple of isolated performance - the other the New Seekers 'Circles', and that's it.

John is going to get more transfers done. I am not sure if he has anything else from TOTP, but I will keep you informed.

I have started work on the TOTP performance list - it is hours of work, in truth, but here's a 'work in progress' overview. This is NOT a full list!:-

""ORPHAN PERFORMANCES:-

1964:

DAVE CLARK FIVE – Bits And Pieces (TOTP 19-2-64) *
BILLY J. KRAMER & THE DAKOTAS – Little Children (TOTP 19-2-64)
THE HOLLIES – Just One Look (TOTP 4-3-64)
THE ROLLING STONES – Not Fade Away (TOTP 4-3-64) - the original BBC TOTP database said this exists, but I've never seen it!
GENE PITNEY – That Girl Belongs To Yesterday (TOTP 11-3-64) - Pete Seaton recovered this, should be at the Beeb
THE SUPREMES – Baby Love (TOTP 8-10-64) *
ROY ORBISON – Oh Pretty Woman (video) (TOTP 22-10-64)
THE MOODY BLUES – Go Now (TOTP 31-12-64)

1965:

BRIAN POOLE & THE TREMELOES – Three Bells (TOTP 21-1-65)
MANFRED MANN – Come Tomorrow (TOTP 21-1-65)
DEL SHANNON – Keep Searchin’ (We’ll Follow The Sun) (TOTP 21-1-65)
GERRY & THE PACEMAKERS – Ferry ’Cross The Mersey (TOTP 21-1-65)
THE RIGHTEOUS BROTHERS – You’ve Lost That Lovin’ Feelin’ (TOTP 28-1-65) *
THE ROLLING STONES – The Last Time (TOTP 4-3-65)
SONNY & CHER – I Got You Babe (TOTP 12-8-65) *
JONATHAN KING – Everyone’s Gone To The Moon (TOTP 12-8-65)
THE BYRDS – All I Really Want To Do (TOTP 12-8-65)
THE SHADOWS – Don’t Make My Baby Blue (TOTP 12-8-65)
HERMAN’S HERMITS – Just A Little Bit Better (TOTP 19-8-65)
THE ROLLING STONES – Get Off My Cloud (TOTP 4-11-65)
THE SEEKERS – The Carnival Is Over (TOTP 25-11-65) *
SANDIE SHAW – Long Live Love (TOTP 25-12-65) - rehearsal footage
THE SEEKERS – The Carnival Is Over (TOTP 25-12-65)

1966:

STEVIE WONDER – Uptight (Everything’s Alright) (TOTP 20-1-66) *
THE HOLLIES – Bus Stop (TOTP 16-6-66)

1967:

THE FOUNDATIONS – Baby Now That I’ve Found You (TOTP 19-10-67)
THE FOUNDATIONS – Baby Now That I’ve Found You (TOTP 9-11-67) *
GEORGIE FAME – The Ballad Of Bonnie And Clyde (TOTP 21-12-67)

1968:

TOM JONES – Delilah (TOTP 7-3-68) *
CRAZY WORLD OF ARTHUR BROWN – Fire (TOTP 18-7-68)

1969:

THE ROLLING STONES – Honky Tonk Women (TOTP 25-12-69)

1970:

LENNON, ONO & THE PLASTIC ONO BAND – Instant Karma (TOTP 12-2-70)
THE JACKSON 5 – I Want You Back (danced to by Pan’s People) (TOTP 12-2-70)
LENNON, ONO & THE PLASTIC ONO BAND – Instant Karma (TOTP 19-2-70)
FREE – All Right Now (TOTP 4-6-70)
THE KINKS – Lola (TOTP 18-6-70) *
PICKETTYWITCH – (It’s Like A) Sad Old Kinda Movie (TOTP 9-7-70)
BREAD – Make It With You (danced to by Pan’s People) (TOTP 3-9-70)
MARTHA REEVES & THE MANDELLAS – Jimmy Mack (danced to by Pan’s People) (TOTP 10-9-70)
BOBBY BLOOM – Montego Bay (danced to by Pan’s People) (TOTP 17-9-70)
THE KINKS – Apeman (TOTP 3-12-70)

1971:

T-REX – Hot Love (TOTP 11-3-71)
THE WHO – Won’t Get Fooled Again (TOTP 15-7-71)
ROD STEWART – Maggie May (TOTP 30-9-71) *
TONY CHRISTIE – (Is This The Way To) Amarillo (TOTP 2-12-71)

1972:

JOHN BARRY – Theme From ‘The Persuaders’ (video) (danced to by Pan’s People) (TOTP 20-1-72)
SLY & THE FAMILY STONE – Runnin’ Away (video) (danced to by Pan’s People) (TOTP 27-4-72)
DAVID BOWIE – Starman (TOTP 6-7-72) *
ROD STEWART – You Wear It Well (TOTP 17-8-72)
ROXY MUSIC – Virginia Plain (TOTP 24-8-72)
GARY GLITTER – I Didn’t Know I Loved You (Till I Saw You Rock ‘N’ Roll) (TOTP 21-9-72)
THE O’JAYS – Back Stabbers (danced to by Pan’s People) (TOTP 28-9-72)
ROD STEWART – Angel (TOTP 16-11-72) - performnce exists in colour the show itself is in B&W.

1973:

DAVID BOWIE – The Jean Genie (TOTP 4-1-73)
STEALERS WHEEL – Stuck In The Middle With You (TOTP 1-6-73)
ELTON JOHN – Goodbye Yellow Brick Road (TOTP 1-11-73)

1974:

MARVIN HAMLISCH – The Entertainer (danced to by Pan’s People) (TOTP 18-4-74)
MOTT THE HOOPLE – The Golden Age Of Rock ‘N’ Roll (TOTP 18-4-74)
ROBERT WYATT – I’m A Believer (TOTP 20-9-74)
SUZI QUATRO – The Wild One (TOTP 28-11-74)
GARY GLITTER – Oh Yes! You’re Beautiful (TOTP 28-11-74)
DAVID ESSEX – Gonna Make You A Star (TOTP 28-11-74)

1975:

ARROWS – My Last Night With You (TOTP 23-1-75) - insert tape for27-2-75
SUPERTRAMP – Dreamer (TOTP 6-2-75) - insert tape for 27-2-75
FOX – Only You Can (TOTP 13-2-75) - insert tape for27-2-75
MUD – The Secrets That You Keep (TOTP 27-2-75)

As for the shows unbroadcast pre-1976 here's that list - 26-12-67 and 15-2-68 were shown a couple of years back on BBC4 so I've left them off the list:

6-6-68 - show is incomplete with the links between songs mute so cannot be shown in its original form
27-2-69 - show is incomplete with the links between songs (apart from the first two links) mute so cannot be shown in its original form.
29-1-70
5-2-70
26-2-70
15-10-70 - links are mute
14-1-71 - I think the links between songs are mute on this one as well - footage I've seen of Badfinger has mute Jimmy Savile link at the start.
25-2-71 - again I think the links are mute on this
29-4-71
17-6-71
1-7-71 - links are mute
27-12-71
30-12-71 - show only exists unedited - Ed Stewart's links are mute and its full of retakes
22-6-72 - titles and first song missing, weak colour, apparantly being 'vidfired' at BBC.
16-11-72
28-12-72
25-1-73
1-2-73
27-9-73
11-10-73 - I think this only exists unedited - possible mute links with Kenny Everett but would need checking
15-11-73
20-12-73
25-12-73
27-12-73 - 10 years of TOTP special
11-4-74
2-5-74
8-8-74
15-8-74
4-10-74
7-11-74 - this is the Dick Emery incomplete recovery Queen excerpt shown on BBC.
25-12-74
27-12-74
2-1-75
27-2-75 - insert tapes are definitely at the Beeb as I've seen them (including the broadcast plates and blank chart rundown)
13-3-75
20-3-75
10-4-75
24-7-75
28-8-75
4-9-75
23-12-75
25-12-75""

These are broadcast quality or NEAR broadcast quality (may be the odd fluctuation in picture, or low-grade colour etc, Hot Chocolate and ELO are two examples) of shows and orphaned clips.

There are also a number of others that the BBC could get access to that have not been shown, but released somewhere on DVD (some Who, Wings, DDDBMT, for example), and a number of performances (and mainly well-loved artists, such as T Rex, Slade and Lulu) in the ZDF archive, all broadcast quality.

There is also a clip of Bad Company, 06/06/1974, shown partially on the Beeb on Jools Holland, but not in full since transmission.

I may be going somewhat above my station here, but, nothing ventured, nothing gained, but would you like me to come up with, say 20-40 titles of performances that the BBC have (or can get fairly easily), that were broadcast in the 70's, and have not been shown in full since?

Regards, Ray.""

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Re: Sounds of the Seventies - New Series
« Reply #102 on May 24, 2012, 2:34pm »

Quite a bit of this info (most) was from Paul Watkins, a bit from Pete Seaton, and some was Neil Barker.... but the email was from me.

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Re: Sounds of the Seventies - New Series
« Reply #103 on May 24, 2012, 3:21pm »

Heh, if you trace the line back, a lot of that info will have come from me originally, via the BBC TOTP website database, a lot of the info for which I researched at BBC Caversham Written Archives (I still have all the reams of paperwork)! These things eventually filter down to other websites and various people make claims on the info

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Re: Sounds of the Seventies - New Series
« Reply #104 on May 25, 2012, 2:50am »

Hi Ray, great work on that list but shouldn't you include two performances of 'Instant Karma'? My mate BP Fallon appears in both, his 'tambourine' version being the most famous but his performance on 'Bass' guitar was included recently on the wonderful 'Lennon Legend' DVD.

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