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Liam Joseph
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Re: Sounds of the Seventies - New Series
« Reply #30 on Apr 19, 2012, 7:27am »

Apr 18, 2012, 10:19pm, nicadare wrote:

As long as the BBC keep showing the weekly TOTP episodes every Thursday I suppose we cannot complain, maybe we are over reliant on the BBC, our European friends hold a huge archive of music, especially Germany & Holland much of which is unseen by residents of the U.K.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkdudveWDh8


Some great clips there. Does anyone know which show the Freda Payne Band of Gold one came from?
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Re: Sounds of the Seventies - New Series
« Reply #31 on Apr 19, 2012, 7:57am »

Apr 18, 2012, 11:26pm, Thomas Walsh wrote:
Regarding Steve Williams post. Very well put but you used the word 'hurl' more times than even SLADE re-issued 'Merry Xmas Everybody'. ;-)


Hmm, the spirit of Michael Hurll subconsciously influencing me there. Also I said the word "abuse" too much. Anyway, thanks for the responses.
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Re: Sounds of the Seventies - New Series
« Reply #32 on Apr 19, 2012, 11:54am »
I'm in agreement with most people that the new series of SOTS is quite promising on the evidence of the first one - apart from the totally unnecessary captions over the performances, that is. I'm in agreement with Oliver here in that it's acceptable on a musical documentary series but not a music performance series.
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Re: Sounds of the Seventies - New Series
« Reply #33 on Apr 19, 2012, 4:21pm »

Apr 19, 2012, 7:27am, Liam Joseph wrote:
Some great clips there. Does anyone know which show the Freda Payne Band of Gold one came from?


Whittakers World Of Music 22-05-1971, available on a 2 DVD-set called "Herinnert U Zich Deze Nog" (BR Music).
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Re: Sounds of the Seventies - New Series
« Reply #34 on Apr 19, 2012, 4:37pm »
Thanks for that info Andreas. The track was a massive hit in the UK of course but I'd always assumed she had never performed it on British TV, albeit this show is the year after it was in the charts.
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« Reply #35 on Apr 19, 2012, 5:36pm »
I wonder why she never performed it in the TOTP studio.
Andreas is quite right about the source of the footage (as always ;) ), on the DVD I noticed the audio was slightly out of sync and I had to correct it.
I'm yet to find any better music compilations than the Dutch BR DVDs. :)
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Re: Sounds of the Seventies - New Series
« Reply #36 on Apr 19, 2012, 5:54pm »
Nic , how do you correct the problem of out of sync audio , i've suffered with this problem a bit recently and downloaded a couple of software programs but can't seem to fathom out how to use them , any help would be much appreciated.
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Re: Sounds of the Seventies - New Series
« Reply #37 on Apr 19, 2012, 6:45pm »
I will PM you shortly Alan, I'll get my knuckles rapped for advertising software on the forum.
Watching TOTP on BBC4 at the moment. ;D
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« Reply #38 on Apr 22, 2012, 11:25am »
Right lets set the record straight once and for all I started asking the BBC for repeats of TOTP about 25 years ago since then we have been lavished with boxpops sounds of TOTP2 and eventually TOTP re-runs so don't bleedin lecture me about my stance regarding archive material. Yes I am a big Slade fan so what (I also like most other music) I have all of Slade's BBC output that exists in the archive so that rules out many peoples mis-guided opinion as to why I "moan" so much (more times than MXE has been released) about archive footage being shown NOT JUST SLADE (I know what sits in the dust) you haven't got access to the archives so shut up. Now regarding this "new" series of sounds of the 70's on the evidence so far there's nothing new about it (the only 1 exception being John's Bowie footage) look at tomorrows edition Ffs it's ALL been seen before and the 30th April show "California" neil young joni mitchell america carole king eagles again it's ALL been seen before too many bleedin times, the production costs fees permission rights etc etc for all this would have been better spent obtaining and showing the work and dedication of people like John Henshall Ken Holmes and the ZDF material as well as others instead of filling our TV screens with the same old tat. Myself Ray Paul and a few others are working our nuts off to bring the viewers different material to watch, NOT for ourselves but for the average TV viewers who are probably sick to death of seeing the same old tired stuff, but probably don't know where to go to voice their opinion, you might want to sit and watch the same stuff but we DON'T so get off yer backsides and support us its the only way things will change. ITV have never had an archive music programme as such, but when they do they will steal the BBC's thunder monopoly and audience.
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« Reply #39 on Apr 22, 2012, 12:28pm »
[quote author=nicadare board=totp thread=7116 post=70786 time=1334593385][quote] GaryJordanBrum think you should check out the br music and toppop DVD's. Thanks for the advice nic would presume the Slade footage you mean on these releases would be whitakers world of music get down and get with it and from toppop any of these gudbuy t jane mama weer all crazee now everyday far far away how does it feel and lock up yer daughters, got the lot had em for years there aint much I aint got lol.
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Re: Sounds of the Seventies - New Series
« Reply #40 on Apr 22, 2012, 1:44pm »

Apr 22, 2012, 11:25am, garyjordanbrum wrote:
For all this would have been better spent obtaining and showing the work and dedication of people like John Henshall Ken Holmes and the ZDF material as well as others instead of filling our TV screens with the same old tat..

Gary's got some good points there, why have the BBC not recovered the ZDF material which is all in very good broadcast condition?
And reference tomorrow's Sound of the Seventies (Reggae), I can't see it being much better than the 'Reggae at the BBC' programme broadcast on Friday evening, it was very good, the tracks were played completely, well edited and sourced from TOTP & TOGWT.
Still with the captions though. ::)
As long as they keep showing the TOTP re-runs on Thursdays I suppose we shouldn't grumble too much. ;D
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Re: Sounds of the Seventies - New Series
« Reply #41 on Apr 22, 2012, 2:38pm »
I can understand Gary's frustration regarding material that the BBC have and don't want to broadcast. At the same time many viewers who watch these programmes aren't 'archive fanatics' and are quite happy to see music clips that most of us are utterly fed up with! As a Cockney Rebel fan i always assume that the only track ever likely to be played by the Beeb or any other Radio/TV station is going to be Make Me Smile. I'm slightly biased into thinking that they were a bit more than just that one song. Wouldn't the answer to all our problems be a programme specifically aimed at lost or obscure performances? Call it 'Lost Top of the Pops'. For such a production you could get away with below par sound and vision which in normal circumstances looks slightly out of place alongside the more pristine footage available.Why not even include YouTube uploads(Judy Teen TOTP's for example) However poor the quality may be if it's a programme dealing solely with lost performances would it really matter? I'm not convinced that the BBC will like this idea or see it as a way to pull in the viewing figures,but it sounds good to me!!
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Re: Sounds of the Seventies - New Series
« Reply #42 on Apr 22, 2012, 3:00pm »
You do highlight a major problem with pre 1976 TOTP's Barry... I love Cockney Rebel as well and thanks to endless screenings of that number one, many people I know or have met think they only did that one song! Look at The Supremes and Sonny and Cher... I'll bet there are many out there who know nothing more than "Baby Love" and "I Got You Babe" thanks to the endless tedious repeats of those songs. TOTP2 HAVE screened occasional clips from European and American TV (The Doors' "Light My Fire", Small Faces "Itchycoo Park", Ike and Tina Turner's "Nutbush City Limits" to name three I can recall) so why haven't they bothered to license in some clips for songs they no longer have just to break the monotony? Then there's the ITV archives... plenty of stuff just sitting there that's never been re-screened which would provide enough material for several new series... so yes, it's frustrating with the BBC but ITV are just as Guilty of sitting on great footage. If it bothers them that much that viewers won't watch it surely some deal could be struck with the BBC to exploit some of those archives in these retro compilations and TOTP2.

ANYTHING to break the predictable monotony!
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Re: Sounds of the Seventies - New Series
« Reply #43 on Apr 22, 2012, 9:33pm »

Apr 22, 2012, 11:25am, garyjordanbrum wrote:
... all this would have been better spent obtaining and showing the work and dedication of people like John Henshall Ken Holmes and the ZDF material as well as others instead of filling our TV screens with the same old tat. .


ZDF holds TOTP extracts?
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Re: Sounds of the Seventies - New Series
« Reply #44 on Apr 23, 2012, 6:31am »

Apr 22, 2012, 9:33pm, dennywilson wrote:

Apr 22, 2012, 11:25am, garyjordanbrum wrote:
... all this would have been better spent obtaining and showing the work and dedication of people like John Henshall Ken Holmes and the ZDF material as well as others instead of filling our TV screens with the same old tat. .


ZDF holds TOTP extracts?


It is my belief (after seeing how a couple of TOTP tracks on Disco 71 have bits of the next track on TOTP bleeding into the them) that all those 'odd' shows the BBC have in their archives where the links are mute with no applause are copies of what was sent some weeks for years to ZDF and that those shows are sat, dusty and uncatalogued, somewhere in the recesses of the ZDF archive. Some performances used on Disco were undoubtedly orphan performances but listen to the end of "Get It On" and you will hear the beginning of "Just My Imagination"...
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