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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Feb 3, 2011 14:30:45 GMT
Does anyone have any idea how many 'Out of Town''s are left archived?
I read that there are 28 or so existing, which is a low figure for something that ran for around 20 years or so.
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Post by cperry on Feb 3, 2011 15:10:40 GMT
There is a previous thread that lists many of the survivors Ray.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Feb 3, 2011 15:48:45 GMT
Thanks CP.
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Post by Ian Wegg on Feb 3, 2011 16:23:46 GMT
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Feb 3, 2011 16:52:26 GMT
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Post by Ian Wegg on Feb 3, 2011 17:41:45 GMT
As I'm sure you know, Jack reused the old films on his post-Southern series, such as Old Country on Channel 4 and the videos that were also broadcast as Out of Town in the eighties. He also used some old clips in his later original series including one each week in the penultimate series in 1980/81. Your second YouTube link is taken from Out of Town episode 6 which is available on DVD volume 2. That first link is interesting though. According to Jack's biography Ringwood Market was first broadcast in November 1976. It doesn't appear on the commercial releases. Jack's stepson (Simon Baddeley) has been uploading various episodes on his Vimeo channel at vimeo.com/channels/164955/. ~iw [edit]: The first clip is from the commercial release, it is from episode 7 Market Day |
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Post by Matthew Brannigan on Feb 5, 2011 6:21:22 GMT
Thanks for the link - only two subscribers so far - I'm number three then! Being brought up in the city I always found Out Of Town a pleasant diversion from the hustle and bustle. Jack Hargreaves had such warmth - I feel all calm and stress free just hearing his voice! |
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Post by Robert Belford on Feb 5, 2011 11:19:37 GMT
Is that really inside a shed? Even right up close to the rear wall there seems to be backlighting. Which is easy to do in a TV studio when the light can be high up and beyond a scenic flat. But not so easy in a real shed  |
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Post by Ian Wegg on Feb 6, 2011 21:43:57 GMT
You're right it's not a shed, although it's not exactly a studio either. It is Meonstoke Village Hall which was hired for recording new link material for the video releases.
The original series were, of course, recorded in the Southern Television studios at Northam. An ex-Southern employee over on the m-club reported that Cliff Mitchelmore once had to broadcast the nightly news programme "Day By Day" from a corner of the "shed" due to a strike by scene shifters.
The three series of "Old Country" for Channel 4 were made at Limehouse Studios in London.
The only episode that was recorded in one of Jack's actual sheds was the special made for Meridian's "Southern Gold" programme in 1994, which was filmed at his home in Dorset.
~iw
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Post by Robert Belford on Feb 8, 2011 9:44:51 GMT
I love trivia like that; discovering something unexpected. I found out recently that several episodes of Coronation Street were made in the studios at Tyne Tees in Newcastle. Who would have thought that?
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Post by Ian Wegg on Feb 15, 2011 22:12:15 GMT
A related query about Jack Hargreaves' follow on series, "Old Country".
These were made in 1983 - 1985 by Lacewing / Limehouse Studios for Channel 4. I assume they still exist somewhere, does anyone know where they would be?
~iw
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Post by Simon Winters on Feb 16, 2011 9:49:12 GMT
The entire series of C4's Old Country is currently out on dvd, newly rebranded as Out of Town. It's the same episodes,with new OOT titles added.
The C4 series reused old Southern film inserts with Limehouse recorded Jack intros. It's these episodes which are out on dvd, not the original Southern ones.
The Southern original vt's from the final few series remain locked up by ITV. One of these was released on a Meridian DVD, with the 'proper' Southern titles/credits. The others are all safely held.
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Post by Ian Wegg on Feb 17, 2011 17:28:28 GMT
The C4 series reused old Southern film inserts with Limehouse recorded Jack intros. It's these episodes which are out on dvd, not the original Southern ones. I'll admit until recently I thought that too (in fact I even say as much a few replies back) but I've discovered it's not true. The three Lacewing / Limehouse Old Country series were commissioned by Channel 4 and were all new. Stan Brehaut decided to stay with TVS so the filming was done instead by Steve Wagstaff. There is a full list of the episodes in the BFI database ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/series/11543. The few that have the same names as OOT episodes are still different programmes. On the Vimeo website, referenced above, are a couple of examples: Farm Sale and Cider Making - you can compare the OoT and OC versions. Apart from the subject matter they are completely different. I've only just realised this, hence my question. More generally, what would become of the masters of programmes commissioned by Channel 4? Are they held by Channel 4 or the independent company (in this case, long gone) who made them? ~iw |
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Post by Alan Turrell on Feb 17, 2011 18:59:19 GMT
On the subject of Jack Hargreaves , i wonder if anything survives from his 1959 debut show Gone Fishing ?
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Post by Ian Wegg on Mar 2, 2011 14:01:18 GMT
Does anyone have any idea how many 'Out of Town''s are left archived? I read that there are 28 or so existing, which is a low figure for something that ran for around 20 years or so. I have heard from KAL that there were 34 x 2" tapes in the old LWT archive but very little details of what is on them. Their whereabouts now ought to be the ITV archive in Leeds. I've read in a couple of places that "the last two series survive". I've constructed a draft episode list of the final 1980/81 series and this contained 21 episodes. Possibly the penultimate series was the more standard 13 episode run giving the figure of 34? There are three more in the NFTVA. The three Lacewing / Limehouse Old Country series were commissioned by Channel 4 and were all new. ... More generally, what would become of the masters of programmes commissioned by Channel 4? Are they held by Channel 4 or the independent company (in this case, long gone) who made them? To answer my own question, I have had a reply from Channel 4 that their "rights" to Old Country expired in 1988. I'm guessing that is a way of saying that they don't hold material they have no rights for. ~iw |
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