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« Reply #60 on Jul 23, 2011, 4:02pm » | |
Jul 22, 2011, 8:40pm, nicadare wrote:Reference The Kinks "Autumn Almanac" & "Wonderboy" Top of the Pops clips they were found in a warehouse in Holland.
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"In 1994 I visited a warehouse with 45.000 cans of film (including TOTP Kinks 16mm dupes of Autumn Almanac and Wonder Boy) – the BBC had no interest in when I offered it to them back in 1997".
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Is this info correct ?
The Kinks - Autumn Almanac first appeared on the VHS compilation tape - 'Rock'n'Roll the Greatest Years 1967 Volume 2 in 1990.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNgo07Cg7lI
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« Reply #61 on Jul 23, 2011, 4:59pm » | |
Jul 23, 2011, 11:48am, ajsmith wrote:Btw, just to clarify: this (as posted above) is what I believe is the contemporary, Barry Fantoni directed Dedicated video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2_83YL0gM0
It's take in excerpt here from the 1995 doc "I'm Not Like Everybody Else" and I'm not aware of a complete version having surfaced. Maybe the complete version featured the band at the end even.
It should not be confused with this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXaO3zgaf5Q&feature=fvwrel as used in some 80s Kinks documentarys, which was clearly put together from archive footage/photos years after the fact. (a great deal of the footage used is from later than spring 1966!) |
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Just to correct myself: Peter Prentice just mailed to say that the clip I thought above was the Barry Fantoni directed clip isn't andf is in fact from another programme, to quote:
" I don't think that Youtube clip has anything to do with the Kinks or Barry Fantoni - it's just part of some jokey straight-goes-mod Carnaby Street report. Can't remember the exact source - either BBC or ITV - but I'm pretty certain I can remember seeing it in its proper context. Might even have it somewhere."
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« Reply #62 on Jul 23, 2011, 7:21pm » | |
It's British Pathe' news clip!
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« Reply #63 on Jul 23, 2011, 7:46pm » | |
Full email received from Richard Groothuizen:
The truth about the vacuum of Toppop footage from march-november 1975 is that before the director went on holidays she instructed the studio to extract all clean footage from 20 Ampex tapes and gave a list with tape number requests and TX + plus empty tapes. Also a note to erase all the tapes after copying. When she returned all tapes were waiting for her: all has been erased BEFORE compiling.
But though the past 30 years I have been collecting Toppop through all sorts of channels: private collections as well as seeking them in AVRO’s forgotten stocks: in 1994 I visited a warehouse with 45.000 cans of film (including TOTP Kinks 16mm dupes of Autumn Almanac and Wonder Boy – that the BBC had no interest in when I offered it to them back in 1997). I did find most of the filmed TOPPOP inserts (1970-1982) and as a hobby I made a database, I frequently went to AVRO (while I didn’t work there yet) to read all contracts from each artist (sadly only 1974-1980 survived), this resulted in the recording dates of the aired and (1100) unaired songs. I used to jot down what I saw on TV starting in 1970, this info was not saved but AVRO. In 1997 many wanted copies of my research, slowly dawning into the idea of producing it in book form. I still enjoy reading it, quite compelling. Especially to use photos of the artists in the studio and from the month I write about.
Currently I am now archiving all 720 studio masters 1981-1988 that sometimes even include footage unknown to me……. Time for a new book?
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Richard
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| | Re: "The Kinks At The BBC" (potential)
« Reply #65 on Jul 24, 2011, 2:00pm » | |
Regarding Richard Groothuizen, is there a contact email address I can access via the web?
If not, can you suggest or ask if there will be more TopPop DVDs as there is a wealth of unseen footage we'd all love to see. There hasn't been a new TopPop compilation DVD since 2008.
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« Reply #66 on Jul 24, 2011, 4:21pm » | |
His Avro business email address has been sent to you Mike via PM. 
Perhaps you can clear up the Autumn Almanac/Wonderboy "when was it discovered" mystery. 
Meanwhile enjoy Autumn Almanac in stereo (from original 1967 masters).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDWsaQS3ZQI
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« Reply #67 on Jul 25, 2011, 1:38pm » | |
Jul 23, 2011, 7:46pm, nicadare wrote:| in 1994 I visited a warehouse with 45.000 cans of film (including TOTP Kinks 16mm dupes of Autumn Almanac and Wonder Boy – that the BBC had no interest in when I offered it to them back in 1997 |
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Worrying that the BBC didn't want them back. How much more of a case of them being given something on a plate with ribbons attached do they want it to be?!? I wonder how safe those two clips are though, wherever they're currently residing?
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« Reply #68 on Jul 26, 2011, 5:58am » | |
Jul 24, 2011, 4:21pm, nicadare wrote:His Avro business email address has been sent to you Mike via PM.
Perhaps you can clear up the Autumn Almanac/Wonderboy "when was it discovered" mystery.
Meanwhile enjoy Autumn Almanac in stereo (from original 1967 masters).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCNRLs8MVjc |
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Great job on the 'Autumn Almanac' clip Nic but did you have to go all 'BBC' on us a put an on-screen blurb about your wonderful remastering work!!?? 
Anyway here's another job for ya'. Could you please sync up the audio on the 'Picture Book' section of the 'Julie Felix' footage? Actually do the whole clip if you can BUT NO BLURB..!! We know you're great. 
Thomas.
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« Reply #69 on Oct 25, 2011, 9:58pm » | |
I was over in Utrecht for the Kinks convention last weekend and had a chat with John 'Nobby' Dalton about TOTP.
He was aware that 'Sunny Afternoon' (his debut appearance with the band) survives but said the clip they all want to see again is 'Supersonic Rocket Ship'.
The band had spent most of the day drinking so Nobby persuaded John (Baptist) Gosling to drop his Marimba 'mallets' when he was 'on camera'.
When Baptist bent down to pick them up he lost his balance and toppled off the stage - much to the amusement of the rest of the band who had trouble miming the rest of the song.
I hope it's out there somewhere.... For now,
http://youtu.be/V2LZzXsTygQ
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| | Re: "The Kinks At The BBC" (potential)
« Reply #70 on Oct 26, 2011, 10:02pm » | |
Oct 25, 2011, 9:58pm, markjhaley wrote:I was over in Utrecht for the Kinks convention last weekend and had a chat with John 'Nobby' Dalton about TOTP.
He was aware that 'Sunny Afternoon' (his debut appearance with the band) survives but said the clip they all want to see again is 'Supersonic Rocket Ship'.
The band had spent most of the day drinking so Nobby persuaded John (Baptist) Gosling to drop his Marimba 'mallets' when he was 'on camera'.
When Baptist bent down to pick them up he lost his balance and toppled off the stage - much to the amusement of the rest of the band who had trouble miming the rest of the song.
I hope it's out there somewhere.... For now,
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This was the time Ray D poured beer over Slade was it not!
Doug Hinman says that dave Rowberry of the Animals, an old pal of the Kinks, also appeared.
An underrated song imo. Ray D doesn't seem to like it and does not appear live very much.
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« Reply #71 on Oct 27, 2011, 3:19pm » | |
it's a weird one.. as the Kinks only hit on RCA, it's excluded from most kinks comps so has been relaitvely forgotten .. weird to think the Kinks nearly maintained their status as a hit machine into the 70s but dropped the ball with "Celluloid Heroes" and never managed to pick it up again in the UK. ("Come Dancing" aside)
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« Reply #72 on Oct 27, 2011, 5:07pm » | |
More surprisingly so because "Celluloid Heroes" is one of the best records the Kinks ever made. But I guess it just didn't fit the single (7'') scheme.
I think the Kinks lost their hitmaker status when they effectively didn't release any singles from "Muswell Hillbillies" (20th Century Man was released in some territorries but although it is an excellent song, it just wasn't a suitable single).
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