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Penny Garlick
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« Reply #30 on Oct 3, 2010, 6:38pm » | |
Sept 10, 2010, 3:54pm, Paul Cooksley wrote:What's your opinion of show's like Radio 2's "Million Sellers' Top 100 recently broadcast on August Bank Holiday Monday, whereby Gary Glitter's song was (I believe) the only record to be quickly mentioned on the chart but not played?
Ok, no one in their right mind would ever, ever, ever condone or think of him in a positive light with regards to the crimes he was convicted of, but to kind of try and "erase" him out of pop history, to me, seems really stupid.
He was a successful act during that certain era in the seventies - no matter what he went on to do - and therefore, I feel, should be represented in history (especially shows like the Radio 2 recent countdown) for his music and contribution at the time - not for what became of him in recent years....
Am I alone in thinking this? Am I wrong?
To me, it's almost along the lines of certain words removed from early OFAH episodes. Ok, "bad" words racially now - and perhaps then - I am again not condoning the words AT ALL, but - nevertheless, part of history and kind of "ok" in their context within the time of the show - if anything history should be shown "as it was" to really make us see just how far we have come - for the better!
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I think they also missed out Eden Kane`s- "Well I ask you" for some unknown reason.
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| | Re: TOTP BBC FOUR
« Reply #31 on Oct 3, 2010, 6:57pm » | |
you can actually juggle your sky box to "lose the dog" by pushing it above the viewing area in letterbox mode when you record it
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« Reply #32 on Oct 4, 2010, 11:24am » | |
Glitter wont earn a penny from any TOTP repeats as he sold off all his rights for 5 million quid just before he went down the fisrt time.
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« Reply #33 on Oct 4, 2010, 8:00pm » | |
can someone tell me when the bbc will put together a decent boxset dvd of top of the pops-like beat club -beat beat beat -german tv certainley knows how to issue brillant dvd compilations-the bbc could trawl the foreign tv stations for totps episodes they lisenced or even sold on german tv has t.rex-doing a 2nd appearance of get it on -totps 1971.why can.t we the t v lisence payer have decent music shows ?on bbc jools holland? give me the old grey whistle test repeats anytime! thats enough of my ranting-
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« Reply #34 on Oct 4, 2010, 8:13pm » | |
ive seen a colour version of friends from tv insider only a fraction of the song was played -shame thats not the complete colour version ive seen tv b/w version-by the way has anyone seen dave dees 1970 solo appearance on totps in b/w-is that in colour?
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« Reply #35 on Oct 4, 2010, 9:26pm » | |
I didn't think the picture quality on the Beat Beat Beat DVDs were as good as the Beat Club DVDs, were the Beat Beat Beat DVDs not released as region free 720 x 480 29 fps apposed to the European standard 720 x 576 25fps? 
The TOTP episodes broadcast on Eins Festival were very nice quality.
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« Reply #36 on Oct 4, 2010, 10:42pm » | |
as discussed here sometime ago, the 'Beat Beat Beat' DVD's were not official releases. so the quality was not much better than VHS.
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« Reply #37 on Oct 5, 2010, 11:50am » | |
Oct 4, 2010, 11:24am, Matthew North wrote:| Glitter wont earn a penny from any TOTP repeats as he sold off all his rights for 5 million quid just before he went down the fisrt time. |
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Indeed, unfortunately the fascist press are seeking to hide this in case it affects their orchestrated witch hunt.
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« Reply #39 on Oct 5, 2010, 9:29pm » | |
Sept 20, 2010, 3:38pm, Nick Gilbert wrote:Chris Barrett wrote:
"Time will show that however distasteful the fancies of Paul Francis Gadd, his "crimes" as they were are relatively minor. Words like "evil" are thrown around lightly these days to describe anyone who falls out of favour with the tabloid press, "
I can't let this pass without comment. He was convicted in Vietnam of sexually abusing 10 and 11 year old girls - I think that deserves the 'evil' tag and can hardly be classed as relatively minor. You seem to believe that his only crime was to have pictures of underage girls on his computer. If he had stopped there, served his sentence and reformed then I would have ome sympathy but he has proved himself unable to control himself. If you had been convicted of a 'reletively minor crime' and were under the scrutiny he was under, would you even contemplate going to Vietnam to pick up little girls? Sheer madness or evilness take your pick.
I am dead against censorship but I would find it very difficult to condone being part of Glitter earning any money - presumably it's not so much censorship as the desire to avoid paying royalties to him? |
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Justice - or, indeed, injustice - can be bought in Vietnam for the price of a round of drinks - and in this case it probably was, and by the coke-snorting hacks working for the UK gutter press who had chased Mr Gadd around the globe in the first instance. Vietnam itself barely pays lip service to any semblance of "child protection" (a bit like our fantastic tabloid press, really) and, furthermore, he's not earning royalties anymore having sold the family silver for a substantial amount back in 1998. That McKenzie, Wade, Bushell etc refuse to point this out to their idiot readership should tell you all need to know. Thus I object to any censoring of old pop music to appease the retaliation of the tabloid editors who kept Glitter's star shining for 20 years longer than it otherwise would have.
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« Reply #40 on Oct 5, 2010, 10:19pm » | |
Oct 5, 2010, 4:59pm, nicadare wrote:
Oct 4, 2010, 10:42pm, Paul Watkins wrote:| as discussed here sometime ago, the 'Beat Beat Beat' DVD's were not official releases. so the quality was not much better than VHS. |
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Are you sure Paul, you are saying that Lovefilm are renting out unofficial DVDs?
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Found the original thread and quoting 'Oliver Roemer'
Quote:HR or "Hessischer Rundfunk" were the producers and broadcasters of "Beat! Beat! Beat!" and they still own the full copyright to the series today.
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The "Voiceprint" DVD's are illegal. As I was mentioning them to the HR and gave them a link to amazon.co.uk, they didn't even know that they existed, nor have they copyrighted them in any way !!!
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Lovefilm have withdrawn some of those DVD's now. I tried to hire one and it is now 'unavailable'. Amazon is still selling them though
Here's the thread
http://missingepisodes.proboards.com/ind....ead=4901&page=1
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« Reply #41 on Oct 6, 2010, 6:20am » | |
Has anyone found out when the TOTP's repeats will be shown on BBC4? I cannot find any details?
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« Reply #42 on Oct 6, 2010, 4:19pm » | |
Oct 4, 2010, 11:24am, Matthew North wrote:| Glitter wont earn a penny from any TOTP repeats as he sold off all his rights for 5 million quid just before he went down the fisrt time. |
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In that case it's poor censorship and they should be shown.
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« Reply #43 on Oct 6, 2010, 4:23pm » | |
Oct 5, 2010, 9:29pm, Chris Barratt wrote:
Sept 20, 2010, 3:38pm, Nick Gilbert wrote:Chris Barrett wrote:
"Time will show that however distasteful the fancies of Paul Francis Gadd, his "crimes" as they were are relatively minor. Words like "evil" are thrown around lightly these days to describe anyone who falls out of favour with the tabloid press, "
I can't let this pass without comment. He was convicted in Vietnam of sexually abusing 10 and 11 year old girls - I think that deserves the 'evil' tag and can hardly be classed as relatively minor. You seem to believe that his only crime was to have pictures of underage girls on his computer. If he had stopped there, served his sentence and reformed then I would have ome sympathy but he has proved himself unable to control himself. If you had been convicted of a 'reletively minor crime' and were under the scrutiny he was under, would you even contemplate going to Vietnam to pick up little girls? Sheer madness or evilness take your pick.
I am dead against censorship but I would find it very difficult to condone being part of Glitter earning any money - presumably it's not so much censorship as the desire to avoid paying royalties to him? |
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Justice - or, indeed, injustice - can be bought in Vietnam for the price of a round of drinks - and in this case it probably was, and by the coke-snorting hacks working for the UK gutter press who had chased Mr Gadd around the globe in the first instance. Vietnam itself barely pays lip service to any semblance of "child protection" (a bit like our fantastic tabloid press, really) and, furthermore, he's not earning royalties anymore having sold the family silver for a substantial amount back in 1998. That McKenzie, Wade, Bushell etc refuse to point this out to their idiot readership should tell you all need to know. Thus I object to any censoring of old pop music to appease the retaliation of the tabloid editors who kept Glitter's star shining for 20 years longer than it otherwise would have. |
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OK we get it - you don't like the tabloid press. However, unless you can prove otherwise, you know no more than anyone else about Gadd's crimes. He was caught with kiddy porn on his computer, he decided to 'retire' to Vietnam - a place well known for child sex and rather less for its retirement homes and he was convicted of crimes against 2 small girls.
That said, if he isn't profiting from TOTP reruns then I see no reason for the censorship.
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« Reply #44 on Oct 6, 2010, 6:25pm » | |
Bringing this thread back on topic again, does anyone have firm info on when the BBC-4 TOTP repeats begin? If so, can they post it here? Thanks.
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