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Re: Do not Adjust Your Set.
« Reply #15 on Jun 22, 2012, 10:16pm »

That was me, yes. And that was way back in 1996! The dates and episode numbers on the website are Ian Kitching's interpretation of the data I gave him. I've checked the printout I got from the BFI way back in July 1996 and the info and dates are the same as on the website : http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/series/7056

So, there is one too many 'y' on the list. They do not hold the episode from 28/03/1968.

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Re: Do not Adjust Your Set.
« Reply #16 on Jun 22, 2012, 11:00pm »

Jun 22, 2012, 10:16pm, A Peel wrote:

Ah, yes. But I'm not sure. They count the 1967 special as episode 1, but the script I linked to earlier said that 21-03-1968 was number 12. So far, that's just a matter of whether or not you count specials too, or just the regular episodes.
But on the DVD, the same episode 12 (mislabeled "episode 8") is followed by one more show. (I know only of the script for 1.12 so I can't use this method to check the other shows.)

Either the DVD didn't put the episodes in their original order, or the BFI has miscounted starting in 1967. (After all, they also date one episode by its repeat.)

None of the episodes on DVD appear to me to be specials. Sorry to ask for more research, but Ian or Andy, could one of you please check if the 1967 special was supposed to be the same length (25 min.) as a normal episode? If it was longer, then we know that it's lost.

I'll submit the result to the site's list of missing episodes, so if we get it right we can make sure that this time, the correct data are available.

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Re: Do not Adjust Your Set.
« Reply #17 on Jun 22, 2012, 11:10pm »

26 December 1967 episode : 6:35pm - 7:00pm
04 January 1968 episode : 5:25pm - 5:55pm
11 January 1968 episode : 5:25pm - 5:55pm

(these would have had commercial breaks in the middle)

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« Reply #18 on Jun 24, 2012, 1:29pm »

So that won't help. Pity. But I found a few other scripts on the orangecow python website.

Episode 1 on the DVD is indeed episode 1 from 4-1-1968. The last episode on the DVD does reference the end so that is likely episode 13 (28-03-1968) after all.

The script for series 4 (25-01-1968) doesn't match any of the episodes on the DVD. The BFI says they have a show for this date, #5.

My conclusion:
The DVD has the episodes in the right order (or at least episode 1 first and 12 and 13 last).
The BFI must've miscounted: They got the episode numbers right, but not the dates, because they started counting in 1967.
The first special (26-12-1967) is lost, but episode 13 (28-03-1968) exists.

This doesn't rule out the story about the wrong episode going out in 1967. The episode intended for 04-01-1968 had already been shot on 19-12, in time for it to be accidentally switched with the boxing day special.
But that'd only affect the air dates of the first two shows, as far as I can see. The list below does not reflect that change, but otherwise it is the best I can come up with. It has been submitted for inclusion on the website.

26-12-1967 Special: A Happy Boxing Day And A Preposterous New Year* (missing)

SERIES 1 (Rediffusion)
04-01-1968 Episode 1* (script also available)
11-01-1968 Episode 2
18-01-1968 Episode 3 (missing)
25-01-1968 Episode 4 (missing, script available)
01-02-1968 Episode 5
08-02-1968 Episode 6
15-02-1968 Episode 7 (missing)
22-02-1968 Episode 8 (missing)
29-02-1968 Episode 9
07-03-1968 Episode 10
14-03-1968 Episode 11
21-03-1968 Episode 12 (script also available)
28-03-1968 Episode 13

29-07-1968 Special (Rediffusion) (missing)

25-12-1968 Special (Thames): Do Not Adjust Your Stocking**

SERIES 2 (Thames)
19-02-1969 Episode 1 (missing)
26-02-1969 Episode 2
05-03-1969 Episode 3 (missing)
12-03-1969 The Loose Denture Show (missing***)
19-03-1969 Your Permanent Wave Looks OK To Me (missing***)
26-03-1969 It's Sundown At The Usual Time (missing)
02-04-1969 The Show With Knobs On (missing)
09-04-1969 N.U.T.S. (missing)
16-04-1969 The Original Broadway (Ealing) Cast (missing)
23-04-1969 Episode 10 (missing)
30-04-1969 The Whizzo-Easi-Probe (missing***)
07-05-1969 The Interplanetary Crossword Puzzlers (missing)
14-05-1969 The Last Post (missing***)

Notes

Animations by Terry Gilliam still exist, location unknown

* Possibly the first episode was aired instead of the boxing day special by mistake

** An abridged version with David Jason removed also exists

*** Audio exists for these 4 episodes

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Re: Do not Adjust Your Set.
« Reply #19 on Jun 24, 2012, 4:04pm »

I've been looking at the Paley Centre listings again.They have DNAYS Feb.19.1969 listed twice,once running 24:50,and again (the "premier episode") running 24:31.'Do Not Adjust Your Stocking' (AKA 'Do Not Adjust Your TV') runs 24:50 and has a reference to the New York World TV Festival 1989.
They also have a compilation of pre-Python material,which includes the 1968 premier episode.

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« Reply #20 on Jun 24, 2012, 6:17pm »

The Times Television Listing for Boxing Day.

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The Times 27 Dec 1967.

Note The Times describes it as an introductory programme to a 13-part series. As also mentioned, Rediffusion broadcast it 6.35 but the rest of the network (that took it at all) showed it earlier at 4.55.

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Anglia TV Times

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Re: Do not Adjust Your Set.
« Reply #21 on Jun 24, 2012, 7:01pm »

Jun 24, 2012, 4:04pm, jgreen wrote:

Was DNAYStocking 25 minutes when David Jason was removed for a repeat? If not, there might be something in it. The other episode could still be interesting too. I suppose I could try and contact the Paley center.

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Re: Do not Adjust Your Set.
« Reply #22 on Jun 24, 2012, 9:56pm »

DNAYStocking was edited down to 25 minutes when David Jason's appearances were removed. It was this version that received a repeat showing on Channel 4 on 30 December 1986.

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Re: Do not Adjust Your Set.
« Reply #23 on Jun 25, 2012, 10:34pm »

Thanks for the newspaper clips.And here was I wondering why anyone was ruffled because a few episodes were shown out of order!
Obviously,the company were willing to go along with the gag and let the team substitute their own spoof ads instead of showing real ones.When that fell through,the wrong episode was broadcast with blanks in the ad break.No paid ads,either when the ad-free episode was eventually broadcast.Quite an expensive mistake.

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Re: Do not Adjust Your Set.
« Reply #24 on Jun 25, 2012, 10:35pm »

It's been added to the chart: http://www.btinternet.com/~m.brown1/dnays.htm
With thanks to Ian and Andrew for looking up extra information.

May 30, 2012, 7:27pm, jgreen wrote:

So Paley describes the 19 Feb. 1969 episode as the "premier".Lostshows describes the 19/2/1969 episode as "missing".
How many of these statements are true?

While I was at it I contacted the Paley Center and I've actually got replies from TWO different curators the same evening. Most likely they have 2 copies of episode 1.1 but at least they may be able to fix the air date in their catalog. I also advised the BFI of their mistake.

By the way, one last snag remains. In the fremantle thames archive footage database, there is an episode for the date of 2.4 but not for that of 2.2. This can only be conclusively proven with the scripts, or the off air audio that Ed Doolan recorded (for both of them) but neither is at my disposal.

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« Reply #25 on Jul 11, 2012, 11:20pm »

I've been trying to work out what the situation would have been with those small aquares in the top right-hand corner of the screen (a technical term) if they were around then? Were there ad-break indicators on the ad-free episode?

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